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Trip to Huelva to move Madeleine's body?

Post HiDeHo on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:00 pm

I'm sure there have been many discussions about the Huelva trip..

Is there anything established from previous discussions, or details in the police files to suggest they may have used the trip to dispose of her body, as suggested in this article?

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_12799.shtml
Madeleine McCann case - Portuguese and Spanish Police are meeting in Huelva

By h.b. - Oct 2, 2007 - 12:28 PM

The Portuguese press say the police think that the McCann's may have used a trip to Huelva, which they consider as suspicious, to move the child's body.

Portuguese Judicial Police from Portimao are meeting with Spanish colleagues in the Spanish city of Huelva today, according to the Spanish agency Europa Press in order to verify the details of the trip to the city which the McCann parents made on August 3, three months after the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine McCann.

The trip was taken in the company of a ‘reduced number of journalists’ according to reports, but police note that there was a two hour period when the parents were alone. The journey was made in the Renault Scenic car which later was found to have DNA remains.

Police think the trip may have been linked to the disposal of the body of Madeleine, and note that businesses in Huelva were closed on the day because it was a local fiesta. They say they parents may have been visiting a previously made grave for the child.

The Portuguese police admit that the body could have been moved to somewhere close to Huelva, which is 50 kms over the border into Spain, according to the Portuguese newspaper ‘Correio da Manha’.

It comes as the Portuguese paper says the police have dismissed the reports that the child may have been kidnapped in some sort of revenge against the holiday complex Ocean Club, and they have added that the parents are ‘trying to distract and interrupt the investigation’.

Another Portuguese paper, ‘Diario de Noticias’, has reported today that the Judicial police in Portugal have accused the British police of showing favouritism to the McCann’s – ‘They investigate the rumours created by the McCann’s, forgetting that the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter’, is a reported quote from the case coordinator, Gonçalo Amaral.

He said example of this was an anonymous email sent to Prince Charles’s webpage, which accused an ex employee of the Ocean Club of having kidnapped the four year old in revenge for being sacked. This had, he is reported to have said ‘no credibility’ for the Portuguese police who consider that the McCann’s have started a campaign to discredit them.

Great information at http://www.mccannfiles.com/id168.html

HiDeHo on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:28 pm

May 3rd..August 3rd Three months..... and they appear to look very relaxed, more than any other pictures I have seen of them.

Is it my imagination?

Suggestions that they were able to visit the 'grave'.....

HiDeHo on Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:04 pm

There are several pics on the mccannfiles link

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id168.html

HiDeHo on Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:25 pm

110 miles took three and a quarter hours?

The Huelva trip goes ahead, despite all public places being closed. The timeline, according to The Sun, is as follows:

09:00 Leave Praia da Luz
12:15 Arrive Huelva (expected at 11:00am)
13:00 Distribute leaflets and posters at train station
13:30 Distribute leaflets and posters at cathedral
14:00 Distribute leaflets and posters at bus station
14:20 Leave to return to Praia da Luz

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id168.html

In late August, early September, a few days before Gerry and Kate were constituted arguidos, for suspicions of the negligent death of their daughter Madeleine, a top member of staff of Judiciaria commented the following: "After buying ourselves a war with the British media, we are now buying one with the English police."

Over the last few weeks, the Policia Judiciaria has been silent, which was helped by the fact that the spokesman of this force for that case, Olegario Sousa, has left that function, which he occupied since the child's disappearance.

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Note: The day after this article appeared, 03 October 2007, Alipio Ribeiro reportedly sent a brief fax to Mr Amaral's office in Portimao on the detective's 48th birthday, reading: "Transfered to Faro for convenience of the service".

It is not known whether the investigation pursued its interest in the Huelva trip following Mr Amaral's departure.

HiDeHo on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:57 am

amethyst wrote:sick of them

I am in the process of downloading hundreds of pics for the day by day calendar..

and you think YOU are sick of them...!! (why do I do this to myself?)

HiDeHo on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:28 am

I love it really lea..

Thats how I came across the Huelva pics...

I was really curious whether there had been any discussion since the police files were made public.

If there is no 'official' details about Huelva in the files, then maybe they are being held.

On the other hand maybe it was a false 'lead'.

For those of us that believe there was no abduction, then something happened at some point with the scenic and Huelva certinly seems a possibility.

Thanks Laffin...will check Gazeta Digital

HiDeHo on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:22 am

Annabel wrote:

The Policia Judiciaria are investigating a trip of the McCann couple to Huelva, Spain, made on August 3, which used the Renault Scenic that contained traces that are presumed to belong to Maddie. These diligences are performed according to the theory, which is now followed more intensely by the investigators, that points to the child's death and the moving of the corpse in that car. The PJ has already collected video surveillance images in "locations that make no sense" where the Renault Scenic may have been through.

Any of these details in the files?

HiDeHo on Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:00 pm

If there was no abduction then Madeleine's body was taken and remained somewhere, at least for a while.

The visit to Huelva today would be under so much scrutiny, if they were doing anything sinister, it would be discovered.

However, keeping in mind they were not aware of the internet scrutiny they face today, they may have felt that the trip would go relatively unnoticed, to accomplish what was needed.

If their visit had nothing to do with 'connecting' with Madeleine in some way, then are there other viable alternatives prior to that date considering the media frenzy of that time?

Logic tells me they must have thought that was a great plan at the time....The secrecy of the day. The extra mileage that they no doubt hoped would go unnoticed. Relatively media free. During Jon Corner's short visit. Parents visit to look after the twins.

The three month anniversary.

HiDeHo on Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:27 pm

Who were the 'journalists' 'cameramen' that went with them?

Jon Corner and who?

Why did they chose these few days for him to visit?

(I have added these details to the Clothing and Timeline Table http://madeleinemccann.aimoo.com/Clothes/Clothes-Timeline-Calendar-1-729198.html

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id168.html

The Huelva trip - In context of other events at the time

31 July 2007 Eddie and Keela start work at Apartment 5A

In the evening, Portuguese and UK investigators begin their search of apartment 5A with Eddie and Keela.

Cadaver odour is indicated in the McCanns bedroom by the wardrobe, in the living room behind a sofa and a light scent indicated outside on the veranda and in a flowerbed. A blood indication is made behind the sofa.

Gerry's blog: Relatively quiet day apart from phone calls and campaign related e-mails. We have Busy couple of days coming up so off to bed relatively early (before midnight)!

01 August 2007 Jon Corner and Kate's parents arrive

Jon Corner arrives to film promotional material for the official 'Find Madeleine' site. Kate's parents also arrive.

Gerry's blog:
Another trip to the airport this morning to pick up our campaign manager. Kate did a series of interviews for womens magazines and the Sunday newspapers which took most of the afternoon. Kates parents, who we visit regularly at home, also arrived and the twins were very happy to see them. They will be staying with us for a week.

We have had some new posters designed of Madeleine, in Portuguese and Spanish, which I have been printing out to distribute locally. I also did some filming to camera which we might use on the website and for future events.

02 August 2007 Trip to Huelva cancelled

Gerry McCann cancels trip to Huelva due to 'viral illness'.

PJ arrive at the McCanns' villa with Eddie and Keela

Around 18:00pm, the Inspectors knock on the door of the McCanns villa. Jon Corner states in the Panorama documentary that the McCanns were forewarned of this forensic visit and that there were clothes in the washing machine when the Inspectors arrived.

Cadaver odour is indicated on two pieces of Kate's clothing (trousers and blouse), on a red T-shirt believed to belong to Madeleine and on the soft toy known as 'Cuddle Cat'.

Gerry's blog: Today was a bit of a write off for me as I was laid low with a probable viral illness which meant I could not stray too far from the house! I did manage to get through some e-mails, telephone calls and some paperwork. Feeling a bit better tonight so hopefully be back to normal tomorrow.

Kate did manage to put up some of the new Madeleine posters in shops around Praia da Luz.. It is noticably busier, now that we are in August, with lots of tourists many of whom are from Portugal. The figures from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children show that one in six kids are recovered after being recognised from a poster. Such statistics do encourage us that relatively simple measures may be effective in helping us find Madeleine.

03 August 2007 Trip to Huelva

The Huelva trip goes ahead, despite all public places being closed. The timeline, according to The Sun, is as follows:

09:00 Leave Praia da Luz
12:15 Arrive Huelva (expected at 11:00am)
13:00 Distribute leaflets and posters at train station
13:30 Distribute leaflets and posters at cathedral
14:00 Distribute leaflets and posters at bus station
14:20 Leave to return to Praia da Luz

A '100% sure' Maddie sighting is reported

In Belgium, details emerge of a possible sighting of Madeleine. A child therapist says she is '100% sure' she saw Madeleine at a restaurant in the town of Tongeren, not far from the Dutch border. A bottle is taken for DNA testing but turns out to be that of a man.

The 'sighting' actually took place on 28 July 2007. Covered here

Gerry's blog: It is exactly 3 months since Madeleine was abducted. Kate and I had an early start as we drove to Huelva, 50Km over the border from Portugal in Southern Spain. We were meant to go yesterday but had to cancel because I was ill.

Unfortunately it was a public holiday in Huelva and the large shopping centre we planned to visit was closed. We did distribute posters in several garages, taxi ranks and the bus and train stations and gave out some Madeleine wristbands. This was definitely a worthwhile exercise, as many people did not seemingly recognise Madeleine but we did get a very warm response from the Spanish people we met. We would encourage everyone to continue taking posters on holiday but please ask permission before putting them up in public places.

When we arrived back in Praia da Luz we did a couple of media interviews to building up to August 11th, which will mark 100 days if Madeleine is still missing. There will be a lot of media activity next week reviewing Madeleine's abduction, the investigation and of course the campaign to help find her. It is an opportunity to highlight that we have not given up hope and are still optimistic of being reunited with Madeleine.

Tonight we prayed for Madeleine at a vigil in the church. This has happened every Friday since Madeleines abduction and was very well attended tonight, probably due to the greater number of tourists in the resort.

04 August 2007 Search of Casa Liliana, summary from 'The Truth of the Lie'

- 4 and 5 August. Ground "aired" and opened. Over two days of thorough searching, no signs from Eddie at Murat's home.

Jon Corner returns home

(see Gerry's blog below)

Gerry's blog: Another early start to the day as I dropped the crew who did some filming for the website and other forthcoming events. Kate and I did a short interview reviewing the last 3 months and the search for Madeleine. We spent the rest of the day with the kids and Kate's family. We were all glad it clouded over in the afternoon to give us some respite from the intense heat.

The most recent searches by the police have attracted a lot of renewed media interest with satellite trucks arriving back in Praia da Luz. It is likely that some of the British Broadcasters will also come back out.

We werre all very tired and we managed to get off to bed at 10.30pm, which is very early for us by recent standards.

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in Correio da Manha October 2nd 2007

http://www.correiodamanha.pt/noticia.as ... al=9&p=200 

Policemen want to find cadaver 
PJ searches in Huelva 

The investigators from PJ in Portimao are meeting the Spanish police today, in Huelva. The goal is to verify again all the details of the McCann couple's trip to that city on August 3, three months after the child disappeared. 

The PJ admits that the cadaver may have been taken to that location, a little over 50 kilometers from the Portuguese border, or that Maddie's parents went to visit the child's grave. 

The trip was considered suspicious, and there is an interval of two hours when the couple was alone, and which could be related to the translation of the girl's body. 

At a time when all data is being checked and the authorities are concentrating their attention on recovering the child's cadaver, the investigators don't dismiss any leads. So they decided to advance into Spain, as they are convinced that the body was transported in the van that was rented by the couple. 

It should be mentioned, as CM reported first hand, that there are many details in the trip to Huelva that are considered to be strange by the investigators. First, the couple chose a holiday to publicize their daughter's disappearance, then they were not followed by the batallion of journalists that was usual. Besides, the car was captured by video surveillance cameras in several "unexplained" locations, which densifies the mystery. 

While PJ runs against time to unveil the crime, the McCanns' pressure increases. Yesterday, daily newspaper 'Times' announced that Maddie's parents are going to try to "annul" the constitution of arguidos because of a lack of clues. Also Sky News broadcast a large report, which mentioned the failures in the investigation and left many doubts about the police work. Police sources that were heard by CM devalue the pressure, guarateeing they were aware this would happen. 

And that it would increase at the moment the parents would be considered suspects. 

 E-MAIL WAS JUST A FARCE 

Another lead followed by Policia Judiciaria revealed itself a farce. The e-mail that was reported by several newspapers yesterday, including CM, and which was sent to Prince Charles, mentioning an abduction as revenge for a dismissal at the Ocean Club, was sent by someone who signed under a false name. The woman, who said her name was Esmeralda Luego, does not exist after all, and the authorities failed to track down the electronic mail itself. Besides, the woman mentions the kidnapping of a child in a hotel in Lisbon, which gave the story little credibility. The McCann had already been informed that the lead was inconsistent, and was considered just one more, among so many unreliable pieces of information that have reached the investigators over the recent months. The most media-exposed and most recent one was a sighting in Morocco, a piece of news that was promptly commented by the McCann's advisor. After all, the girl that had been photographed by a Spanish woman was four years old and the daughter of a Moroccan woman and a Belgian man. In less than 24 hours, the news was dismissed, but the McCanns reaffirmed the thesis that the child is alive. 

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http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/09/police-is-checking-kate-and-gerry-trips.html

24.9.07Police is checking Kate and Gerry' trips to Spain (follow-up) 
McCann couple “disappeared” for two hours

A source from “Comisaría General de la Policia Judicial” (Spanish CID) confirmed today that investigations related with the disappearance of Madeleine took place in the Spanish province of Andaluzia, more exactly at Huelva. After an informal meeting between inspectors from criminal departments of both police forces, the investigation and searches were concentrated on the itineraries the McCann have chosen, when they drive to the city of Huelva, Spain, on August 3, and on several persons who have direct connections with the couple (to be continued)

The fact that there is period of two hours, during which Spanish Police wasn't able to find traces of the McCann couple and the hired car, aroused some suspicion with the PJ, reinforced with the presence of the Renault Scenic in some specific places, without justification. The McCann hired car appears in several videos, seized by Spanish Police.

The day the McCann choose to go to Huelva, to campaign for Madeleine – with leaflets only in Portuguese – is also considered “strange” by Portuguese 


14 comentários:  
Anonymous said... Perhaps they were meeting the CRG team working in Spain. 
24 September 2007 16:32   
Anonymous said... I've been reading Matthew James website-he's a psychic and very good(www.mara-gamiel.blogspot.com)and he's convinced Madeleine is alive. He's saying in fact that police will soon realize that DNA is not from a dead child but from a living one.
Just a thought..maybe McCanns know where Madeleine is(maybe they went to see her in Spain?) and are just playing their part..
In fact since they came back to UK..and just before that Matthew James has been referring to Eire..
and that Madeleine has been on the move..

I don't know why someone would do this-I mean abduction ect. but this whole case has been so strange that anything is possible.
I'm convinced though that McCanns would never do anything to harm their kids-no way. 
24 September 2007 20:16   
Anonymous said... I believe Kate's brother lives there...Have they left Maddie there? 
24 September 2007 23:34   
Anonymous said... Anonymous ( 24/09/07 - 13.16 )

Can you help me ?? i'm confused with your msg..

- maybe McCanns know where Madeleine is(maybe they went to see her in Spain?) and are just playing their part.. ( ??? )

- I'm convinced though that McCanns would never do anything to harm their kids-no way. ( ??? ? 
25 September 2007 02:48   
Anonymous said... This is an important case of a missing girl. Please keep "psychic" lunatics away from every aspect of this case. 
25 September 2007 04:06   
Anonymous said... ...and 
25 September 2007 07:00   
Linda said... From the beginning, I found it difficult to believe that the parents were repsonsible but some of the evidence reported (and remains unverified -which one needs especially and gets during a trial by jury) - is worrisome. For me it is the washing of Cuddle Cat and saying "They've taken her" and a few other reported happenings do not paint a rosy picture.

But if the evidence suggested by the hair strands and scent dogs and DNA are sufficient and prove to be reliable and good, then the only rational conclusion is that the parents are somehow involved but to what extent one may never really know short of a confession which does not appear to be happening.

The very tragic part of this is that Maddie is probably dead and the person or persons responsible may go free for lack of concrete evidence. Poor little Maddie.

I for one could not drive around with my childs decomposing body in the trunk of the car and bury her/him in a shallow grave around cow dung (or some other scenerio) for the life of me - but that is me - and history proves that even the most respected person among us can resort to rather gruesome crimes for very selfish reasons.

I do not know if doctors, who would be used to death and blood etc., might have a different disposition than the average joe on the street when it comes to such matters. There's a lot of questions and not too many answers.

Thank you Paulo for this blog and all your hard work keeping us updated. 
26 September 2007 00:47   
Anonymous said... I read somewhere a few weeks ago that they were invited by the Mayor of Huelva - perhaps this could be checked out, or maybe it is just a blog rumour (so many of these). 

If they planned to go the previous day, but Gerry McCann was unwell, they can hardly be blamed for the fact that the following day was a festival. 

I've passed through countless places on holiday only to find it was a bank holiday and everything was closed.

Did you ever investigate the kidnapping and murder of the Swiss child, Ylenia Lenhard by Urs Hans von Aesch, of Benimantell, Alicante - with the possible help of two other men? Don't you think this ring or one with links to it could have been involved here? What do the neighbours in Benimantell and La Nucia think? What is the Alicante-based Olive Tree sparkling wine community, linked to paedophiles?

Why, Paulo, have you switched from at first believing the parents could have had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance to following closely all the reports which suggest they have hidden her body and covered up an accident? 
28 September 2007 06:18   
Paulo Reis said... Naif question. Because raising evidence shows THE McCANN HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE.

NOBODY that IS INNOCENT refuses to ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM Police. 

ONLY people that REFUSES to ANSWER questions from the POLICE is GIVEN the SATUS of ARGUIDO.

If Gerry and Kate HAVE NOT REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS MADE BY POLICE, THEY WOULD'T BE "ARGUIDOS". 

Why does somebody THAT IS INNOCENT refuses TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE POLICE????? Get it? May be a drawing can help...

Paulo Reis 
28 September 2007 06:33   
Anonymous said... Thank you for the explanation re arguido status.

The way I read it before (in the papers), was that a witness could choose to become an arguido and could refuse to answer questions, presumably until a trial (as Robert Murat became an arguido).

I had not realised the police made them arguidos as they would not answer (40) questions.

I do not think the police would ask them questions without the DNA evidence to confirm their suspicions. Of course, they were rushed by the McCann's decision to go home. No need for a drawing - I got it a long time ago from reading body language during interviews, thanks. 
28 September 2007 07:57   
Anonymous said... I'm sorry Paulo, but it is you who is being naive here. There are several perfectly valid reasons why one might not wish to answer questions put to you by the Police: 1) if they were attempting to bully or fluster you by asking 'leading questions' into giving answers they might use against you by 'misinterpreting' what you have said later on, or 2) if your lawyer had told you not to answer further questions, which is what I read elsewhere was the truth in this case. Or do you think that the McCann's Portuguese lawyer was also in on 'the plot'? I'm deeply disappointed to find your once-neutral blog being used to propagate more of the lurid, sensationalist 'theories' that swamp such gutter-level internet sites as Anorak. Or maybe you have a hotline to the Portuguese Police and know everything they claim to know? If so, please enlighten us. All this speculation is little more than 'pissing in the wind' and perhaps it is time to take a step back and just collate the published 'facts' rather than trying to create them through your own anti-McCann postings? 
28 September 2007 09:41   
Paulo Reis said... No. When a person is innocent, there is REASON AT ALL TO REFUSE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM POLICE. Besides, GERRY AND KATE HAD A LAWYER WITH THEM.

You know what is THE ONLY SITUATION WHEN A LAWYER TELL HIS CLIENT NOT TO ANSWER questions adressed from police? Guess..

Paulo Reis 
28 September 2007 11:54   
Paulo Reis said... The McCann were not invited by the Mayor of Huelva. IN FACT, GERRY McCANN CANCELLED THE TRIP TO HULEVA, IN THE AFTERNOON OF AUGUST 2.

SKY NEWS:

Madeleine Push Delayed As Gerry Sick

Updated: 12:40, Thursday August 02, 2007 
A new push to publicise the search for Madeleine McCann has had to be delayed as the four-year-old's father is suffering from a stomach bug.
Gerry McCann and daughter Amelie

Updated posters of Madeleine have been printed in the latest appeal for information.

Gerry and Kate McCann had been due to travel to the Spanish city of Huelva to begin handing out the posters and meet politicans.

The fresh campaign is timed to coincide with the upcoming 100-day milestone since Madeleine's abduction in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz.

But the plans have been put on hold until Mr McCann has recovered from his illness.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1278250,00.html

Regards,

Paulo Reis 
28 September 2007 11:57   
Paulo Reis said... No journalists went with Gerry and Kate McCann to Huelva. Only two hours after their arrival at Huelva journalists at Praia da Luz were allerted that the McCann were in Spain. TRY TO FIND PICTURES either than in local Spanish newspapers from THE McCANN VISIT TO HEULVA... 
28 September 2007 12:01  
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When they refused to answer questions it confirmed their belief. 
The ridicule from the British media re-inforced their determination. 
The political pressure only sufficed to disprove coruption in the PJ. 
But most important of all they have one piece of gold, evidence that cannot be reputed. 
This visit is to clarify secondary evidence. 
Kate was the original loose canon, alas someone else took the mantle, and the beauty is its all on footage 

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Kate was the original loose canon, alas someone else took the mantle, and the beauty is its all on footage[/quote] 
What do you mean by that? Would you mind clarifying the last comment?
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Kate was the original loose canon, alas someone else took the mantle, and the beauty is its all on footage[/quote] 
What do you mean by that? Would you mind clarifying the last comment?[/quote] 
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Who took the mantle?
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someone recently made video footage, however it does not match actual evidential footage 
 
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[quote="juxtapose"]someone recently made video footage, however it does not match actual evidential footage[/quote] 
I'm willing to appear thick as a brick... 
Video footage of what?
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i cannot say anymore, please please try to work it out 
 
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(1) someone else took the mantle, because kate was too weak... 
(2) recently shot video footage from PDL is different than the PJs footage from May 

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Do you mean the friend's footage that cropped up in Panorama ? 
 
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Jon Corner??
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That's what I was thinking ... the Huelva trip footage?
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if there was anything (suspicious) in PANORAMA, what would help to solve the case, the Police/PJ could make this "evidential" - by confiscating Jon Corners video tapings  
 
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CCTV footage at Ocean Club?
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Jane Tanner's interview? That's not Golden enough though, surely? 
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Is the CCTV footage from OC that taken on 3rd May??
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let's see what the next few weeks brings, but a couple of you are going for gold 
 
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[quote="juxtapose"]i cannot say anymore, please please try to work it out[/quote] 
CCTV footage of someone moving Maddy's body... 
but can't work out who is "taking the mantle"... 
Nobody is admitting anything. 
The ONLY other thing I can think of is something about the Payne check on Kate in the afternoon, when Gerry asked him to leave the courts and check on her. Is Payne taking the mantle? 
Duh.
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last footage of madeleine is the bar on the beach, unless the cctv in the service station is her, though thought to be highly unlikely. 
The footage none of us knows about is with the PJ, and does NOT show madeleine 
 
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[quote="juxtapose"]last footage of madeleine is the bar on the beach, unless the cctv in the service station is her, though thought to be highly unlikely. 
The footage none of us knows about is with the PJ, and does NOT show madeleine[/quote] 
OK. I hope that people who are much brighter than I am come to this thread and post some theories. 
I think you may have inside knowledge and if so you have to be very, very careful! 
For the life of me I can't work this one out.
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I think they are allowing them to hang themselves, basically. 
Jux, we have a case here that a retired cop has a missing wife, he keeps on going on camera even though he has legal counsel. 
I think as long as the suspect is willing to talk, the police must just let them go at it. If the lawyers could get them to shut up, then the police would wrap up with what they have. Cops just getting more fuel for the fire (cheaper on tax payers I think). 
 
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[quote="juxtapose"]last footage of madeleine is the bar on the beach, unless the cctv in the service station is her, though thought to be highly unlikely. 
The footage none of us knows about is with the PJ, and does NOT show madeleine[/quote] 
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Does this mean that Madeleine was not actually around when her parents claimed she was??
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Would the kiddies' club have had a security camera ? Or a parent had a video camera ? Was Madeleine not there in the afternoon as claimed ? 
 
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Would it be anything to do with a certain photograph??
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your first answer too vague 
last photo does not interset PJ 
 
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OK. I looked through a few earlier posts. 
The PJ have cctv footage from the OC. 
It disproves EVERY one of the timelines given by the Tapas 9. 
I find this very heartening, without knowing anything more. 
Justice for Madeleine McCann / support and respect for the PJ!
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then maybe this footage is the one PJ took when they did the crime reconstruction ? 
...then they found something special - what should have been seen, comparing the witness statements with it ? 
 
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if david payne went to see if kate and the kids were ok in the AFTERNOON then ergo the kids werent at the creche in the afternoon and the CCTV from the creche might show the children who were there coming and going but NO SIGN of the mccann kids or madeleine coming or going 
in addition or as an alternative cctv footage from around the resort may show the mccanns in a car (a hire car or a friends car or indeed ANY car or even on foot with the buggy with the LARGE all encompassing hood/cover leaving their apartment and/or returning at a time when the mccannas claimed gerry was playing tennis and kate was home alone wth the kids in possible body disposal operations 
or again cctv footage may show a friend coming or going to the mccanns apartment for body disposal etc in the afternoon/early evening 
 
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If the footage does NOT show Madeleine then either it shows that she was not somewhere where her parents said she was, or it is showing somebody else doing something that they should not have been doing.
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also another thought from the thread title if the PJ knew all along (maybe the stand alone evidence not necessarily forensic) it may well be something simple such as showing someone on CCTV doing something they shouldnt or destroying their alibi etc for a certain time 
 
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so... 
-- some of tapas 9 could have claimed "we went on may 3rd to this and that place" - and then must have passed cctv ---> what can be proved now, they are not shown 
(maybe because - the pj's reconstruction of all tapas 9 statements showed there must have been footage of someone...) 
OR 
-- there indeed WAS footage of a tapas 9 when s/he claimed not having been there on may 3rd... 
 
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AND.... the other OPs point RE someone "took the mantle for kate"... 
WHO - of the tapas 7 actually took a "mantle" ? 
-- payne 
-- jane tanner 
then most likely jane tanner was chosen to take this "mantle", what is the abductor statement, because she seemed to be more "reliable" as a witness ? 
 
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[quote="scrafen"]AND.... the other OPs point RE someone "took the mantle for kate"... 
WHO - of the tapas 7 actually took a "mantle" ? 
-- payne 
-- jane tanner 
then most likely jane tanner was chosen to take this "mantle", what is the abductor statement, because she seemed to be more "reliable" as a witness ?[/quote] 
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Was Kate supposed to have "seen" bundleman??
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ganga.. on the right track 
This is not gold evidence, just an aside 
Look at the pics/video of Kate on the morning of 4th May, been up all night looking for her daughter, an abductor has allegedly taken her, and moved cuddle cat. Her earlier statements say the abductor had clearly moved cuddle cat. So what was she doing holding cuddle cat in that very first press release? Footage there for all to see. Secondly, why would a mother who has just had a child allegedly abducted, take time to change her ear rings the next day? 
This has nothing to do with the gem that the PJ have 
 
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cant imagine that kate was supposed to see bundleman... 
but maybe they had to change their initial plan, how to "present" the abduction, due to kate...  
 
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...to continue with my previous post... 
...maybe kate was by the evening simply too drunk and so must have been ripped off the "abduction" plan staging on short notice 

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[quote="scrafen"]@repioverum 
cant imagine that kate was supposed to see bundleman... 
but maybe they had to change their initial plan, how to "present" the abduction, due to kate... [/quote] 
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I think that Jeremy Wilkins appearing when he did threw a real spanner in the works...
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yep, jeremy wilkins disturbed the plan very badly... 
...this would explain jane tanners (late) statement, because it was needed to support an abduction, which was quickly discarded as no "evidence" (of jemmying shutters...) 
but - what did the OP mean by "taking the mantle" for kate, because being the "loose canon" ?

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Why did the McCann family travel to Huelva in Spain on August 3 ?

By h.b. - Sep 27, 2007 - 12:34 PM

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Portuguese newspaper 'Correio de Manha' asks the question today as police try to cover the 2,750 kilometres reportedly used by their hire car over a month

According to the Portuguese newspaper ‘Correio da Manha’, the Portuguese Police are now investigating a journey allegedly taken by the McCann family to Huelva in Spain during August.

The investigators are trying to justify a reported 2,750 kilometres which the parents of missing Madeleine McCann added to the Renault Scenic hire car in the month they used it. This was the same car from which DNA evidence was taken by the investigators.

The McCanns reportedly went to Huelva on August 3, which was a local fiesta in the Spanish city, but the reason for the trip is not clear.

The newspaper claims that the Portuguese police are concentrating their efforts now on the search for a body, although other lines of investigation remain open.

The police believe the child died accidentally on the night she vanished May 3rd and that the parents later moved the body. However the evidence they have is not sufficient they say to charge the parents who it seems will not be questioned again unless new evidence is found.

The McCanns continue to proclaim their innocence and say all the police efforts should remain concentrated on the search for Madeleine.

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Apensos V Vol XIII
Pages 2901-2904

(In English, text is jumbled and in the wrong order, have typed it up as it appears in the files.)

Behind Jerry McCann – Caller has seen this male on TV. He is white “looked a biggish sort of guy and really short hair almost shaved age 40-45 yrs”. Caller is not sure but she also thinks there was another passenger in the back behind Mrs McCann. Possibly a woman but “wouldn’t like to swear to it”. Caller is sure of the date and the times as she went to the train station to change her tickets and she still has the

Rec by Tphone 29-09-07

Changed tickets with the date on. Caller is ringing in as she has read in the paper about “lost hours in Huelva”. Caller states when she saw the McCanns at the traffic lights there were no other cars behind them (papers stated they had photographers with them in Huelva – Daily Mail dated Friday 28-9-07. Caller is happy to speak to the police if necessary. Caller will hang on to her tickets as proof of her being in Huelva.

Rec by Tphone 29-09-07

Location: Huelva, Spain, out of force area.
Origin: Mrs Linda Rosendale, Kent. Witness.
Text:

Caller states on 3-8-07 she was at locn at Huelva in Spain at approx 11.20 hours she was sitting next to the McCanns at traffic lights (road name not known but knows in the centre of Huelva).

Caller states if shown a map she could identify the road as

Title: Info/ McCanns Huelva

Time 1934 Date 29-09-07

Rec by Tphone 29-09-07
Incident confirmed.

Caller has a house just outside Huelva. Caller states they were driving the rented Renault Scenic and there were pictures of Maddy on the windows. Caller states she was actually sitting alongside Jerry McCann who was driving, his wife was sitting next to him in the front and there was a white male sitting

Rec by Tphone 29-09-07

Location: Huelva, Spain, out of force area.
Origin: Mrs Linda Rosendale, Kent. Witness.
Text:

Caller states on 3-8-07 she was at locn at Huelva in Spain at approx 11.20 hours she was sitting next to the McCanns at traffic lights (road name not known but knows in the centre of Huelva).

Caller states if shown a map she could identify the road as

Title: Info/ McCanns Huelva

Time 1934 Date 29-09-07

Caller has a house just outside Huelva. Caller states they were driving the rented Renault Scenic and there were pictures of Maddy on the windows. Caller states she was actually sitting alongside Jerry McCann who was driving, his wife was sitting next to him in the front and there was a white male sitting behind Jerry McCann – Caller has seen this male on TV. He is white “looked a biggish sort of guy and really short hair almost shaved age 40-45 yrs”. Caller is not sure but she also thinks there was another passenger in the back behind Mrs McCann. Possibly a woman but “wouldn’t like to swear to it”. Caller is sure of the date and the times as she went to the train station to change her tickets and she still has the changed tickets with the date on. Caller is ringing in as she has read in the paper about “lost hours in Huelva”. Caller states when she saw the McCanns at the traffic lights there were no other cars behind them (papers stated they had photographers with them in Huelva – Daily Mail dated Friday 28-9-07. Caller is happy to speak to the police if necessary. Caller will hang on to her tickets as proof of her being in Huelva.

Incident linked to 209 26-06-07

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Maddie's body may be buried in Huelva

There are two hours that remain to be clarified during the trip that was made on August 3 by Madeleine McCann's parents to the Spanish city of Huelva, in the Renault Scenic that was rented three weeks after their daughter disappeared from Praia da Luz.

Although it was a holiday in Huelva, the McCann couple went to that town in Andalucia, accompanied by an image operator who was hired to make a video about the Maddie case, and a friend of his.

Gerry and Kate met Portuguese and foreign journalists between 10.30 and 12.30, at various locations, namely at department store El Corte Ingles, at the train station and at the cathedral, where they distributed and put up posters with the image of their daughter and the police contact numbres, so anyone who located her could get in contact.

One of the British reporters who, since the first hour when Maddie disappeared, accompanied the McCanns' steps, lost their track for two hours in Huelva, as DN could discover. It would have been during the afternoon that Gerry and Kate, probably without their two companions, stopped being seen by the reporter, who hadn't lost them out of his sight until then.

What they did, nobody knows. A mystery that now thickens the suspicions that Madeleine's body may have been buried in the Huelva area, which could justify the thousands of kilometers that were made during four months.

Among the British journalists that follow the Maddie case at Praia da Luz, there are some who remember that one of the rituals that are practised by many catholics, namely in England, consists in visiting the tomb three months after someone's death. Curiously, on August 3, the day the McCanns "vanished" in Huelva, was three months to the day that their eldest daughter disappeared.

Policia Judiciaria already owns several images from the video surveillance system of petrol stations and highways, along with other locations where the Renault Scenic driven by Gerry McCann went through, which the investigators considered have "no apparent reason" to be.

The trip to Huelva was scheduled for August 2, a day when the McCanns were supposed to meet representatives from associations that are connected to missing children.

But the trip was delayed to the next day, allegedly because of "intestinal problems" of Gerry McCann, according to the justification that was then given by the couple's spokesperson, Justine McGuiness, who didn't travel with them that day.

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Suspicions: Authorities went to Spain to try to understand what the McCanns did on August 3
PJ investigates trip to Huelva

Policia Judiciaria is investigating a trip of the McCann couple to Huelva, Spain, made on August 3, which used the Renault Scenic that contained traces that are presumed to belong to Maddie. These diligences are performed according to the theory, which is now followed more intensely by the investigators, that points to the child's death and the moving of the corpse in that car. PJ has already collected video surveillance images in "locations that make no sense" where the Renault Scenic may have been through.

The suspicions become more dense with some details of the trip. Namely the fact that for almost three months, Kate and Gerry had an intense media agenda, which included the presence of the press all over Europe. This was until August 2, a time when Maddie's father alleged intestinal problems and cancelled the entire program, which included meetings with some associations in Huelva.

Gerry missed that day, but PJ found out later that the trip from Praia da Luz to that Spanish city was made the next day, this time including the couple and a small group of journalists. This was the first time in three months, since their daughter disappeared on the night of May 3.

The 'strangest' part is the fact that on that day, it was a holiday in Huelva. And the McCanns didn't schedule any meetings, everything was closed - and there was a big agitation at the city center. At a time when the inspectors are trying to reconstitute thousands of 'unjustified' kilometers that the Renault Scenic made during this period, CM knows there was even a meeting between the leaders of the investigation and the Spanish police.

After the detection of residues that may lead to the presence of the body inside the car, the PJ, besides failing to find a justification for the exaggerated amount of kilometers travelled, already owns several images of the passage of that van through Spain, on August 3. The van may contain the key to the crime.

Kilometres have not been justified

PJ owns the records of the kilometers that were made with the van, between May 27 and July 3. The distances are being checked, in order to try to reconstitute the locations where the van that was hired by the McCanns passed through.

Residues collected in August

The blood residues that are presumed to belong to Madeleine, were collected inside the car in early August. THat was also the time when the English dogs smelled cadaver odour inside the boot, and on the vehicle's key.

(...)

Results delayed

PJ still awaits the results from analyses that are being performed on the rest of the residues that were collected inside the McCanns' car and in the apartment. They are not expected this week.

Awaiting interrogations

The POlicia Judiciaria is preparing the request letters that will be sent to England. The purpose is to interrogate the McCanns and their friends.

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The Huelva trip timeline The Sun<!--"''"--> 
 
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Distance from city to city by car is approx. 110 miles

JOURNEY TO SPAIN

The McCanns left Praia da Luz at 9am on August 3 along with Gerry's brother John and a cameraman hired to take footage for website findmadeleine.com

They travelled east on the A22 and arrived in Huelva at 12.15pm after stopping at a service station for fuel. They were expected at 11am.

POSTER DRIVE

Kate and Gerry began distributing leaflets and posters about Madeleine.

At 1pm they arrived at the train station to hand out more, then to the cathedral at 1.30pm and bus station at 2pm. They headed back to Praia da Luz at 2.20pm.

Note: It was Jon Corner who accompanied the McCanns to Huelva, as seen in the Panorama footage and the photograph reproduced further down this page. There is no evidence to suggest that John McCann was in Portugal at that time.

The claim that the McCanns arrived in Huelva at 12.15pm is contradicted by a witness, in the PJ files, who claims to have seen the McCanns in the centre of Huelva, in their Renault Scenic hire car, at 11.20am.

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Wed Aug 1

01 August 2007<!--"''"-->

Jon Corner and Kate's parents arrive
 
Jon Corner arrives to film promotional material for the official 'Find Madeleine' site. Kate's parents also arrive.
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Gerry's blog: Another trip to the airport this morning to pick up our campaign manager. Kate did a series of interviews for womens magazines and the Sunday newspapers which took most of the afternoon. Kates parents, who we visit regularly at home, also arrived and the twins were very happy to see them. They will be staying with us for a week.
 
We have had some new posters designed of Madeleine, in Portuguese and Spanish, which I have been printing out to distribute locally. I also did some filming to camera which we might use on the website and for future events.
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Thurs Aug 2

02 August 2007<!--"''"-->

Trip to Huelva cancelled
 
Gerry McCann cancels trip to Huelva due to 'viral illness'. 
 
PJ arrive at the McCanns' villa with Eddie and Keela
 
Around 18:00pm, the Inspectors knock on the door of the McCanns villa. Jon Corner states in the Panorama documentary that the McCanns were forewarned of this forensic visit and that there were clothes in the washing machine when the Inspectors arrived.
 
Cadaver odour is indicated on two pieces of Kate's clothing (trousers and blouse), on a red T-shirt believed to belong to Madeleine and on the soft toy known as 'Cuddle Cat'.
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Gerry's blog: Today was a bit of a write off for me as I was laid low with a probable viral illness which meant I could not stray too far from the house! I did manage to get through some e-mails, telephone calls and some paperwork. Feeling a bit better tonight so hopefully be back to normal tomorrow. 

Kate did manage to put up some of the new Madeleine posters in shops around Praia da Luz.. It is noticably busier, now that we are in August, with lots of tourists many of whom are from Portugal. The figures from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children show that one in six kids are recovered after being recognised from a poster. Such statistics do encourage us that relatively simple measures may be effective in helping us find Madeleine.

Fri Aug 3
Huelva

 Trip to Huelva

03 August 2007<!--"''"-->

Trip to Huelva
 
The Huelva trip goes ahead, despite all public places being closed. The timeline, according to The Sun, is as follows:
 
09:00 Leave Praia da Luz
12:15 Arrive Huelva (expected at 11:00am)
13:00 Distribute leaflets and posters at train station
13:30 Distribute leaflets and posters at cathedral
14:00 Distribute leaflets and posters at bus station
14:20 Leave to return to Praia da Luz
 
A '100% sure' Maddie sighting is reported
 
In Belgium, details emerge of a possible sighting of Madeleine. A child therapist says she is '100% sure' she saw Madeleine at a restaurant in the town of Tongeren, not far from the Dutch border. A bottle is taken for DNA testing but turns out to be that of a man. 
 
The 'sighting' actually took place on 28 July 2007. Covered here
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Gerry's blog: It is exactly 3 months since Madeleine was abducted. Kate and I had an early start as we drove to Huelva, 50Km over the border from Portugal in Southern Spain. We were meant to go yesterday but had to cancel because I was ill.
 
Unfortunately it was a public holiday in Huelva and the large shopping centre we planned to visit was closed. We did distribute posters in several garages, taxi ranks and the bus and train stations and gave out some Madeleine wristbands. This was definitely a worthwhile exercise, as many people did not seemingly recognise Madeleine but we did get a very warm response from the Spanish people we met. We would encourage everyone to continue taking posters on holiday but please ask permission before putting them up in public places.
 
When we arrived back in Praia da Luz we did a couple of media interviews to building up to August 11th, which will mark 100 days if Madeleine is still missing. There will be a lot of media activity next week reviewing Madeleine's abduction, the investigation and of course the campaign to help find her. It is an opportunity to highlight that we have not given up hope and are still optimistic of being reunited with Madeleine.
 
Tonight we prayed for Madeleine at a vigil in the church. This has happened every Friday since Madeleines abduction and was very well attended tonight, probably due to the greater number of tourists in the resort.
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Sat Aug 4
 Saturday August 4• Police launch a second search of Robert Murat's house.
Mrs McCann speaks for the first time of her regret at leaving her daughter on the night she disappeared.
She also discloses that as she tucked Madeleine into bed that night, the little girl said: "Mummy, I've had the best day ever. I'm having lots and lots of fun."

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Search of Casa Liliana, summary from 'The Truth of the Lie'
 
- 4 and 5 August. Ground "aired" and opened. Over two days of thorough searching, no signs from Eddie at Murat's home.
 
Jon Corner returns home 
 
(see Gerry's blog below)
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Gerry's blog: Another early start to the day as I dropped the crew who did some filming for the website and other forthcoming events. Kate and I did a short interview reviewing the last 3 months and the search for Madeleine. We spent the rest of the day with the kids and Kate's family. We were all glad it clouded over in the afternoon to give us some respite from the intense heat. 

The most recent searches by the police have attracted a lot of renewed media interest with satellite trucks arriving back in Praia da Luz. It is likely that some of the British Broadcasters will also come back out. 

We werre all very tired and we managed to get off to bed at 10.30pm, which is very early for us by recent standards

Sun Aug 5

Sunday August 5• The search of Mr Murat's home is completed, with reports suggesting that no new evidence was found.

W/B Aug 6

Mon Aug 6
Monday August 6• A Portuguese newspaper reports that British sniffer dogs have found traces of blood on a wall in the apartment where Madeleine went missing.
Detectives now believe it is most likely Madeleine is dead, having been killed accidentally, the Jornal de Noticias claimed.

A police officer enters a car parking in Praca 1 de Maio in Central Portimao, 06 August 2007. Portuguese criminal police reserved three out of four floors of the public car parking near the police headquarters, to process 10 cars in relation with the disappearance of four-year-old 

Day 95 - 06/08/2007 - Monday
Today was again very busy. Lots of e-mails and telephone calls to family and friends who have been involved in the campaign to find Madeleine. I went to a large office store in Portimao to buy a new printer and ink, both of which were badly needed after all the posters we produced this last week. There has been lots of media attention on the latest police searches.
We are pleased that the investigation remains so active and we are cooperating fully with the Portuguese and British police, as we have done since day 1. We continue to hope and pray daily for that vital breakthrough or sighting that will lets us be reunited as a family.

Tues Aug 7

Day 96 - 07/08/2007 - Tuesday
Kate and I managed an early morning run today. It was pleasantly cooler, with a refreshing breeze, which made a nice change. The media presence in Praia da Luz is at its greatest since the first couple of weeks, as is the amount of speculation and rumour regarding the investigation. 

This morning we agreed to do a short, pooled interview that was made available to all broadcasters worldwide. We wanted to make it clear, that as far as we know, there is still absolutely no evidence that Madeleine has been seriously harmed and Kate and I have to believe she is still alive. The Portuguese police have assured us on numerous occasions that they are looking for Madeleine and not a corpse. Of course all possibilities are being considered and the police have to be certain before eliminating any of the scenarios. It is absolutely right that we are subject to the same high standards of investigation as anyone else. Kate and I have, and will continue to assist the police in every possible way. 
We hope there is a breakthrough in the investigation very soon. 
In the meantime the campaign to keep the public involved in the search for Madeleine continues. We are always trying to think of ideas that will reach people who may not have heard of Madeleines disappearance. 
I spent a couple of hours this afternoon working on forthcoming events but did manage to squeeze in a much-needed haircut! 

Wed Aug 8

Healys left PdL

Wednesday August 8
• DNA tests on a milkshake bottle used by the girl seen in Tongeren prove inconclusive.
But Belgian police say the findings do not rule out that Madeleine was present and say they are still hunting the couple's black Volvo car.
A friend of the McCanns says she is disgusted at an apparent smear campaign against them.
Rachael Oldfield, who ate with the McCanns on the night Madeleine disappeared, said: "I think there are some leaks coming from the police because a lot of what I have read recently has been completely untrue."

McCann, drives away from his villa in Praia da Luz 08 August 2007
Gerry McCann (L), father of missing four-year-old Briton Madeleine McCann, drives away from his villa in Praia da Luz 08 August 2007. Belgian authorities said Wednesday that DNA taken from a bottle at a Belgian cafe, following a reported sighting of missing British toddler Madeleine McCann, was that of a man, but the investigation continues. AFP PHOTO / FRANCISCO LEONG (Photo credit should read FRANCISCO LEONG/AFP/Getty Images) 

Day 97 - Aug 8th 2007 -Wednesday
Kates parents left early this morning. We did a short interview on how our faith has helped us during the last 3 months since Madeleines abduction. Given the events of the last few days we need to draw even greater strength from our faith and everyone who has supported us. 

With the huge amount of media attention on us again it is very difficult to do anything with the kids without them being filmed and it is unfair on them. There is a huge amount of speculation in the media that Madeleine is dead, 
particularly with the obvious change in strategy of the investigation recently. At our meeting with the Portuguese police today we reaffirmed that we have to believe Madeleine is alive until there is concrete evidence to the contrary. 
It is this belief that has driven everything we have done in relation to publicising Madeleines disappearance over the last 3 months. 
Algarve Resident

Family routine or time gap?

Updated: 10-Aug-2007

THURSDAY AUGUST 9, 2007

By: CECÍLIA PIRES

GERRY AND Kate McCann are keeping in regular contact with the Polícia Judiciária to find out about any developments from the latest investigations, although some newspapers have been reporting this week that the couple were called in by the PJ for new inquiries.

Some Portuguese newspapers reported this morning (Thursday) that the couple was questioned again yesterday (Wed) afternoon “as police wanted to confirm what had happened between 6pm and 9pm of May 3”, the day Madeleine McCann disappeared from her room in a holiday apartment at Praia da Luz

Thurs Aug 9
Thursday August 9
• The McCanns end their daily routine of taking their two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie to the creche at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz.
The move follows concerns about photographers taking pictures of their children and disturbing holidaymakers using the child-minding facility.
Mr Murat's lawyer criticises the McCanns' "strange" behaviour in leaving Madeleine alone on the night she vanished.
Francisco Pagarete also claims people in Praia da Luz want "these bloody McCanns" to return home.
The McCanns insist they will not be "bullied" into leaving Portugal by the growing backlash against them.

Reports Of Blood Found In Madeleine McCann Apartment

Kate and Gerry McCann, leave the Praia da Luz apartment by car on August 9, 2007

arrive in their rented villa in Praia da Luz 09 August 2007. Portuguese and British newspapers report that during a review of evidence sniffer dogs from the British police found traces of blood and the odor of a corpse inside the room from witch Maddie went missing 3rd May. A British laboratory is currently analysing the blood samples, a source in the investigation told the Portuguese news agency. 

People sunbathe and swim at the beach a few minutes walk from the apartment where Madeleine McCann went missing

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Reports Of Blood Found In Madeleine McCann Apartment
LAGOS, PORTUGAL - AUGUST 09: Kate and Gerry McCann, parents of missing Madeleine McCann, leave a hotel on route to an interview with television crews on August 9, 2007 in Praia da Luz, Algarve, Portugal. The lawyer of the only suspect for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann today criticised her parents' 'strange' behavior in leaving her alone on the night she vanished. Kate and Gerry McCann have come under increasing pressure from the Portuguese media in recent days. This week Portuguese newspapers repeatedly reported that detectives now believe it is possible that Madeleine was not abducted but died in their holiday apartment on the night she disappeared. (Photo by Steve Parsons/Pool/Getty Images) 

Day 98 - 09/08/2007 - Thursday
We did a series of pooled interviews for TV and the press. The focus was to discuss the launch of the YouTube channel Don’t you forget about me which we have devised in conjunction with Google and the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children. YouTube is used by tens of millions of people mainly in the 16-24 age group. We think this is an incredibly exciting innovation to raise awareness of missing children. The channel is launched at lunchtime today and will have other videos of missing children. Families and other agencies will be able to upload videos of children that will help to raise awareness of their disappearance. 

The rest of the interviews focussed on the events of the last week. We again emphasised that we do not know of any evidence that Madeleine has been seriously harmed and everything we have done is in the belief it is likely to increase the chances of finding her. Unfortunately the media attention has been very intrusive and we have taken the children out of kids club due to the disruption caused. We 
hope this settles down and the kids can get back into their routine which has kept them very settled in the last 98 days. It is a shame that the media attention has also impacted on other holidaymakers which we certainly dont want. 

We did manage to have a quiet dinner with our family and the kids.

Algarve Resident

Family routine or time gap?

Updated: 10-Aug-2007

THURSDAY AUGUST 9, 2007

By: CECÍLIA PIRES

GERRY AND Kate McCann are keeping in regular contact with the Polícia Judiciária to find out about any developments from the latest investigations, although some newspapers have been reporting this week that the couple were called in by the PJ for new inquiries.

Some Portuguese newspapers reported this morning (Thursday) that the couple was questioned again yesterday afternoon “as police wanted to confirm what had happened between 6pm and 9pm of May 3”, the day Madeleine McCann disappeared from her room in a holiday apartment at Praia da Luz.

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Steve Marsden
There is a Roman Catholic Cemetery just north of Huelva.

The British Cemetery, called "Nuestra Señora de la Soledad", BELONGS TO THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT. It is in a countryside area outside of town so can be difficult to locate. If you are able to look on 'Google Maps', you will see a semicircular shaped building approximately 4 kilometeres north-east of the town and this adjoins the town cemetery.

In this cemetery is the grave of Glyndwr Michael who served his country during the Second World War under the assumed rank and name of Major William Martin, Royal Marines. History knows him as "THE MAN WHO NEVER WAS".

Is the girl who has not been found buried there?
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Heather Hopper, Jacqui Kendall Williamson and 22 others like this.
Myra Coogan I doubt very much that we will ever know what became of Maddie
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Christine Smith An intriguing thought Steve!
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Frances Gallagher Very interesting Steve, Have you any more information on this. .Am heading out but would like to have a look at this later. A link here for newbies on the trip to Huelva.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id168.html
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Janet Cocking no I don't think she is
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Katie Doney Very interesting Steve,love your posts
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Janet Cocking would be interesting to know of any new burials made around the area or in the "triangle" during the early part of that week
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Steve Marsden Jon Corner made Huelva his base when he traveled there to make a documentary. That has always intrigued me because Huelva is in the wrong direction to Praia da Luz assuming he landed at Faro. Why would you go to visit your best friends in PDL but make your "base" 190km (380km round trip) away? Like everything in this case, it makes no sense at all.
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Gill Ashton I know that is irony, Steve but - EVERYthing makes sense of course. Great question.
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Gill Dowling Am convinced that Heulva has a lot to do with this mystery. Always have been. They went there on a day when it was shut ! !
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Steve Marsden In June 2011 I wrote "In the Panorama documentary “The Mystery of Madeleine McCann” aired on November 19, 2007, Jon Corner showed footage of the car boot with posters in it but curiously he didn’t answer “no” when asked if Madeleine was in that car boot. He simply said that the boot was full of posters and they went to Huelva to increase awareness."
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Christine Smith Yes and have they ever been asked to explain the mileage that day - so many questions they haven't answered!
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Gill Dowling over 40 at the last count Christine Smith!
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Gill Ashton That bit about the three months visit is interesting, if true (never heard it before). Because they initially planned to go on the 2nd, which we know is stated to be the anniversary...
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Gill Ashton David McIntosh, of Omni-perception, said: "I would have expected police to have been on the first plane out – there were enough scientific matches between the photo and Madeleine."

Eh???
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Steve Marsden This is the entrance to the cemetery.
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Steve Marsden Your daughter has been missing for months. They tell the media they're going to Huelva to hand out leaflets but Gerry gets the trots so they put the trip off...only to then go on a public holiday the next day when the place is effectively closed...to increase awareness, and shake off the media. Hmmm right! But why Huelva? It is a chemical port town so not a tourist place. The McCanns lie about increasing awareness. Why? Well they never travelled to that big country in central Europe - FRANCE!
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Gill Dowling they never went anywhere where there were "sightings " either...
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Gill Ashton Of course none of this family's illnesses are necessarily genuine. Perhaps Gerry was offered an unexpected turn at being ill??
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Gill Ashton I suppose you might expect there to be fewer visitors to a cemetery if there was a fiesta in town.
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Steve Marsden Yes Gill but for me it is glaringly obvious that none of their trips were about increasing awareness or else they would have planned a trip to France. France is only 2 borders away from Portugal. Germany and Hollland are nowhere near so why did they really go there?
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Steve Marsden Gill, I don't know if it was a Fiesta type of holiday with things going on in public or a more quiet type of public holiday making it a ghost town.
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Steve Marsden Clarence Mitchell would know that cemetery was British. He worked in Whitehall.
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Gill Dowling Good question. I actually have no answer to it either. So much of what they say and do defies logic. Seems that they laid a greast number of red herrings for the press / pj to follow. Smoke and mirrors my dear, smoke and mirrors x
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Gill Dowling The cemetery has many secrets I think... not the least being Major Martin... funny that the initials are the same... thats only just occurred to me ..
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Kerry PureUnderground Martin I agree Gill just going through the pages of The Huelva trip and it seems they may of set off to Huelva early morning before 9am and before all the carnival stuff started give them a chance to find a burial place.
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Jo Bamber It would explain the family gathering.....
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Janet Cocking going to Huelva makes little sense whether bank holiday or not, they NEVER do or say anything without good reason though, not always immediately apparent
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Christine Smith Jon Corner could have checked the place prior to them going there if he was staying nearby - so they could have got there and back quite quickly without anyone noticing!
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Anna Silvestro Why go on a public holiday when there would be very few people around in the town? Unless they needed to be in that area when there would indeed be very few people around.
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Janet Cocking who asked Jon Corner if M was in the boot....odd??
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Karen Johnston Did Jan Bones not mention the Catholic Cemetery some weeks back , I know i have read about it on here (this is only MM site I read & post in) Seem it is a place to think about.
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Kerry PureUnderground Martin anna it was not a public holiday as such there is a big fesitval with carnival and bull fighting it would of been very busy mid day ish
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Christine Smith Do yu think the PJ have been looking for possible burial sites - you'd think and hope so!
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Yura Nicced didnt the PJ or Amaral say they had their car on the Huelva trip on CCTV in some UNUSUAL places - i would really like them to ecpand on this a bit more and also release ALL the files they are meant to under their own transparency laws - It always seems in these cases that there is one law for them and one for us - Lady Diana was embalmed strictly against French law and the steel was removed pretty quickly from the biggest crime scene ever (9/11) - WHERE was their car in Huelva spotted ? That, Mr Holmes, is the question
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Steve Marsden So many lies were spun about the trip to Huelva and there has never been a motive for going to that industrial port city. To put it in context, it's like your kid goes missing in Leicester and you drive up to Hull on a bank holiday to hand out leaflets. It is unbelievably absurd.
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Steve Marsden But Kerry, the McCanns didn't go to a bullfight where the people would be concentrated. Their photos and video show they were not in high concentrations of people. It would have made a lot of sense to stand outside a bull arena with thousands of people but they didn't do that.
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Yura Nicced I think it was only a matter of days before Eddie n Keela searched Murats and was on the 3 month anniversary - visiting a particuler grave perhaps ???
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Yura Nicced The Huelva Trip -http://www.mccannfiles.com/id168.html
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Yura Nicced Trip to Huelva cancelled

Gerry McCann cancels trip to Huelva due to 'viral illness'....See More
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Yura Nicced oh dear, this is getting toooo freaky - i have only just read the book called Operation Mincemeat, all about an intelligence op that basically swung the whole war around to us and not only that but the photos on google earth have some VERY clear checkboard motifs around the fountain (ala Freemmmmmm)
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Yura Nicced
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Yura Nicced http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat
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Yura Nicced Major Martin was buried in the San Marco section of Nuestra Senora cemetery in Huelva,[19] with full military honours on.........
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Yura Nicced wait for it......
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Yura Nicced May.....
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Yura Nicced 2nd
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Steve Marsden Mince Meat - MM
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Steve Marsden For a bunch of 9 adults, that Tapas mob had an over abundance of sicknesses amongst themselves didn't they?
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Gill Ashton My God that explains everything. The Corpse Pants match the fountain!!  
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Joy Sharman its worth looking at
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Patricia Lumley The exact location of the grave is in the San Marco section of Nuestra Señora de la Soledad Cemetery in Huelva. 37°17'29.74"N 006°55'46.63"W
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Janet Cocking Major Martin is an interesting story but I cant see how/why M would be put in there...am I missing something??
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Diane Allsop ..
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Christine Smith I'm beginning to feel like Hercule Poirot! lol
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Sue Tinsley Just don't go growing a moustache!!
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Gill Ashton It's ok Christine, lots of us have facial hair... 
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Lisa Pritchard This seems far fetched he was buried in 1943 and his grave is concreted over. Sorry to put a dampner on this. However it is interesting.
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Christine Smith I'm at that age Gill!!
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Yura Nicced aaahhh, Lisa Pritchard but Murats drive has been concreted over, another co-incidence, x
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Lisa Pritchard Yura Nicced Now your saying mm is under Murat's drive like Stephen Birch.
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Steve Marsden Straying off topic here. The soldier buried is probably a reason why the British are connected or own the cemetery. The inference is that MM could be buried in this huge cemetery and that Madeleine is not connected to the soldier at all.
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Lisa Pritchard Ty Steve Marsden was just trying to keep it logical.
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Mick Carter Well Steve Britain and Portugal have been allies for 600yrs?
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Steve Marsden I didn't mean anyone in particular Lisa - just saying that the stuff about the soldier is factually correct and an interesting side story but probably not in the slightest bit connected to Madeleine. I'm more interested if there was a grave there for her.
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Steve Marsden Yes true Mick - a very long alliance. I was surprised at this British owned cemetery in a non-descript part of Spain on the outskirts of what is essentially Spain's equivalent of "Hull".
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Lisa Pritchard It is correct and it is interesting and yes she could be there.
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Heather Hopper Steve Marsden, very interesting discovery. Do you know if the dead are buried or in niches as most Spanish cemeteries are?
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Margaret Whittle are we talking about a body or cremtated remains
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Gill Ashton I'm guessing we may be talking cremated remains from certain smug challenges.
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Steve Marsden Not sure Heather. I saw one photo that showed niches in that cemetery.
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Steve Marsden Margaret, Gerry's confidence that the body won't be found tends to veer towards a cremation but this Huelva trip has raised lots of eyebrows. It is so out of place and it defies logic or reason.
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Gill Ashton Maybe there is an identical pot on one of the graves, to the one in the shrine at home...
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Beryl Spilsbury Why can't the PJ check on all burials/cremations around that time?
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Lisa Pritchard Catholics usually do not agree with cremation. I know their return to catholisism was sudden after the disappearance.
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Steve Marsden I have heard that Amaral was interested in this siteBeryl although not sure if it was after he was kicked off the case.
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Lisa Pritchard It could be because Huelva is in Andulucia not Portugal Beryl.
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Steve Marsden Lisa, I don't think Gerry ever was Catholic. I'm sure there is plenty of evidence he wasn't very religious at all. Kate is the one with a strong Catholic background.
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Lisa Pritchard Omg I am getting everything wrong about gerry today.
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Steve Marsden I'd put money on it Lisa although I can't readily give you a source link.
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Christine Smith They'd probably scatter ashes which is why G is so arrogant about finding a body. However this may have been a good place to do this.
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Treacle Qpr In Kates book she said they fibbed about Gerry having the 2 bob bits, as they were meeting with journos in Helluva, and the PJ turning up at 10am to do their forensics. However her mum dad and uncle brian and janet went off with the car. The car wasnt checked till a few days later.
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Steve Marsden Treacle, is there a full breakdown of the Huelva circumstances? I know McCann files has a page but it's a page of news stories. I wondered if there's a timeline of the events of that day in detail.
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor Interesting...Thanks Steve Marsden. Here is a link to LOTS of info about that trip http://forum2.aimoo.com/.../Re-HUELVA-Trip-1-907795.html
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Margaret Whittle Lizzy may have something ?
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Heather Hopper It would be common, being in Spain, however there is a British Cemetery in Malaga and they have below ground buriels, which is quite uncommon in Spain.
41 minutes ago · Like
John Smith Its a classic way for criminal to dispose of a body,bury it under a newly dug coffin
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Heather Hopper They appear to have burials re the photos. I wonder if there are records kept that the public can access? When I have a bit more time I will do a bit of research on that Steve Marsden.
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Steve Marsden It has happened in the cemetery here where I liveJohn. I worked with the director of the cemetery (70,000+ burials including Abraham Lincoln's bodyguard buried there). There are so many tales about cemeteries and what goes on there.
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Jean Kelly A young woman was found a few weeks in a grave , she had been it was murder. the police had a tip off and found her. jean
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Ian George Huelva Acid Beds...I will say no more!
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Treacle Qpr It would mean that jon corners film of the boot would have been empty, but also the family were in on it.
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Lizzy Hideho Taylor To get the trip into context, it may be worthwhile to check out the calendar for that day... The dogs were brought to the villa on 2nd (hence Gerry's 'virus') and on the 6th the dogs searched the car (finding 'frozen' body fluids under the main trunk area) I have added all the dog searches and their specific locations for each day... http://forum4.aimoo.com/.../AUGUST-2007-Calendar-with...AUGUST 2007 Calendar with Phone Pings - Madeleine McCann CONTROVERSY
forum4.aimoo.comAnother work in progress.Originally I was only adding photos for comparison but ...See More
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