[quote="raggatt"]Personally, I've only judged them negatively for the things I know they've done wrong for a fact. The things they've already proved to be guilty of.
That is: leaving the kids alone; complete lack of responsibility and remorse for doing so; selfishness; crazy, inappropriate smiling from ear to ear; disingenuous public manipulation; world tour; callous statements and actions; money grubbing; lies; obstruction of justice; etc, etc. Just the narcissistic, sociopathic things they've already said and done for a fact.
I've never had any idea whether or not they directly harmed Maddie, and so have never judged them for that or commented on it. Ever.
Therefore they ARE guilty of the things I have a problem with, not innocent, and I've got no reason to be ashamed either way.[/quote]
I am sure you have been scrupulously fair raggat, if only all the antis had your clean conscience!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
The first few days I'll have trouble sleeping, of course, but after 5 days I'll be sleeping just fine. And I will probably do some timed joggings up the hills too.
Well, if this saga has shown anything, it's that people like it black and white.
And they like it to be fed to them in bite-sized morsels by the trusty media.
Just like a mo-vee. Just like a Mills and Booooon.
All cut up on the plate for them, with even little stickers, pointing to the sequence in which the public-feast should be eaten.
Lots of bathroom and snack breaks, to take the place of commercials.
Sprinkled with 'evidence' and 'clues' for those who fancy themselves a bit 'intellectual'.
Has to be lots of novelty though ... for those programmed by decades of tv-viewing to develop the attention-span of cucumbers.
So cue the 'cadaver dogs' and 'cuddle cat ' and liquid-eyed latin policemen delivering 'leaks' in sexy accents.
Now introduce the pink-shirted one with his bag of home-goals.
Overlay with rumours of drug-use swinging extra-marital daliances on the side belly-dancers earnest fathers taking children for walks in the moonlight archetypal bad-guys with 'wonky' eyes large ladies old ladies egg-men bald-men unemployed actresses posing as nannies conflicting witness statements ever-helpful PT media reports insane UK media reports mysteriously-delayed forensics results gruesome 'clues' and 'evidence' doleful priests Freemasonic links religious imagery the occult spontaneously erupting website lightning-fast promotion of cashing-in tack merchandise hoof in mouth 'expert' PR, marketing, image-consultants private jets millionaires billionaires a Pope the US of A !
All there. Dive in and enjoy !
Shame they like it black and white though. Because the truth lies in the unexplored alternatives, in all their shades of grey
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="AnaMaria"][quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
The first few days I'll have trouble sleeping, of course, but after 5 days I'll be sleeping just fine. And I will probably do some timed joggings up the hills too.[/quote]
Tis a known fact that jogging is good for stress and depression. It activates the endorphins and makes one better able to cop with distress.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="sabot"][quote="AnaMaria"][quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
The first few days I'll have trouble sleeping, of course, but after 5 days I'll be sleeping just fine. And I will probably do some timed joggings up the hills too.[/quote]
Tis a known fact that jogging is good for stress and depression. It activates the endorphins and makes one better able to cop with distress.[/quote]
Yes, that's why I'll be doing it! You see, I'll be terribly distressed if they are found innocent, so going jogging seems to be a good idea.
[quote="P20"]Well, if this saga has shown anything, it's that people like it black and white.
And they like it to be fed to them in bite-sized morsels by the trusty media.
Just like a mo-vee. Just like a Mills and Booooon.
All cut up on the plate for them, with even little stickers, pointing to the sequence in which the public-feast should be eaten.
Lots of bathroom and snack breaks, to take the place of commercials.
Sprinkled with 'evidence' and 'clues' for those who fancy themselves a bit 'intellectual'.
Has to be lots of novelty though ... for those programmed by decades of tv-viewing to develop the attention-span of cucumbers.
So cue the 'cadaver dogs' and 'cuddle cat ' and liquid-eyed latin policemen delivering 'leaks' in sexy accents.
Now introduce the pink-shirted one with his bag of home-goals.
Overlay with rumours of drug-use swinging extra-marital daliances on the side belly-dancers earnest fathers taking children for walks in the moonlight archetypal bad-guys with 'wonky' eyes large ladies old ladies egg-men bald-men unemployed actresses posing as nannies conflicting witness statements ever-helpful PT media reports insane UK media reports mysteriously-delayed forensics results gruesome 'clues' and 'evidence' doleful priests Freemasonic links religious imagery the occult spontaneously erupting website lightning-fast promotion of cashing-in tack merchandise hoof in mouth 'expert' PR, marketing, image-consultants private jets millionaires billionaires a Pope the US of A !
All there. Dive in and enjoy !
Shame they like it black and white though. Because the truth lies in the unexplored alternatives, in all their shades of grey[/quote]
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="AnaMaria"][quote="sabot"][quote="AnaMaria"][quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
The first few days I'll have trouble sleeping, of course, but after 5 days I'll be sleeping just fine. And I will probably do some timed joggings up the hills too.[/quote]
Tis a known fact that jogging is good for stress and depression. It activates the endorphins and makes one better able to cop with distress.[/quote]
Yes, that's why I'll be doing it! You see, I'll be terribly distressed if they are found innocent, so going jogging seems to be a good idea. [/quote]
Just for you? Or are the Maccans allowed to do it as well?
[quote="P20"]Well, if this saga has shown anything, it's that people like it black and white.
And they like it to be fed to them in bite-sized morsels by the trusty media.
Just like a mo-vee. Just like a Mills and Booooon.
All cut up on the plate for them, with even little stickers, pointing to the sequence in which the public-feast should be eaten.
Lots of bathroom and snack breaks, to take the place of commercials.
Sprinkled with 'evidence' and 'clues' for those who fancy themselves a bit 'intellectual'.
Has to be lots of novelty though ... for those programmed by decades of tv-viewing to develop the attention-span of cucumbers.
So cue the 'cadaver dogs' and 'cuddle cat ' and liquid-eyed latin policemen delivering 'leaks' in sexy accents.
Now introduce the pink-shirted one with his bag of home-goals.
Overlay with rumours of drug-use swinging extra-marital daliances on the side belly-dancers earnest fathers taking children for walks in the moonlight archetypal bad-guys with 'wonky' eyes large ladies old ladies egg-men bald-men unemployed actresses posing as nannies conflicting witness statements ever-helpful PT media reports insane UK media reports mysteriously-delayed forensics results gruesome 'clues' and 'evidence' doleful priests Freemasonic links religious imagery the occult spontaneously erupting website lightning-fast promotion of cashing-in tack merchandise hoof in mouth 'expert' PR, marketing, image-consultants private jets millionaires billionaires a Pope the US of A !
All there. Dive in and enjoy !
Shame they like it black and white though. Because the truth lies in the unexplored alternatives, in all their shades of grey[/quote]
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I'm sure between the PJ, Leicestershire Police and Scotland Yard, they'll figure things out. They will separate the bull from the s**t.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="sabot"][quote="AnaMaria"][quote="sabot"][quote="AnaMaria"][quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
The first few days I'll have trouble sleeping, of course, but after 5 days I'll be sleeping just fine. And I will probably do some timed joggings up the hills too.[/quote]
Tis a known fact that jogging is good for stress and depression. It activates the endorphins and makes one better able to cop with distress.[/quote]
Yes, that's why I'll be doing it! You see, I'll be terribly distressed if they are found innocent, so going jogging seems to be a good idea. [/quote]
Just for you? Or are the Maccans allowed to do it as well?[/quote]
Of course! Wasn't it the reason why they did it? In fact I think it's a shame they've stopped doing it now. The more the distress, the more you should jog!
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:02 am Post subject:
[quote="vilipend"] I am sure you have been scrupulously fair raggat, if only all the antis had your clean conscience! [/quote] _______________________________________________
I'm not sure if your response is sincere or sarcastic...but...
It's not being fair. It's having a well-developed BS meter and problem with ALOT of the things they've done, in full public view - but only judging based on what I know, and not speculation.
Again, I'm only judging them on their child neglect, selfishness, blatant lies and public manipulation. Things I know for a fact. I do not know whether or not they directly harmed Maddie. Therefore, I have no opinion whatsoever about that.
I'm sure it's possible that narcissistic sociopaths are just as likely to have their children kidnapped as nice, caring parents. I'm not kidding.
So, if they did kill her...I haven't defended child neglecting murderers. If they didn't kill her, I never accused them of it. So yes, clear conscience.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
Let me please ask one question.
You are on vacation and one child goes missing. You believe that child was abducted, taken by a stranger who could be anyone, a stranger, who could for all you know, work at the resort, who may have been watching your family.
Are you going to leave two more small children in the care of resort staff a couple of days later?
No you are not. Not in a million years. Unless of course you knew there was no abductor.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="sabot"][quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
They just won't believe it Villi. It will be a cover up or worse, according to them. They are on a roll now and most of them will go to their graves believing that they have been deliberately deprived of their public hanging. This is the thing that I find to be the saddest of all.[/quote]
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You sneer and cuss at others who do not believe that it is possible for doctors to claim that they believed it was safe to leave three toddlers alone in an apartment...
but this seems to be your only pov....
In fact - you appear to be answering the question on behalf of other people - who are they - these people you despise - why are you so reticent with your OWN personal OPINION in regard to the question posed by the op
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: Re: What If You Are Hounding An Innocent Family?
[quote="GoodForYou"][quote="vilipend"]Will you have it on your conscience? Or will you just laugh it off? Genuine question.[/quote]
Let me please ask one question.
You are on vacation and one child goes missing. You believe that child was abducted, taken by a stranger who could be anyone, a stranger, who could for all you know, work at the resort, who may have been watching your family.
Are you going to leave two more small children in the care of resort staff a couple of days later?
No you are not. Not in a million years. Unless of course you knew there was no abductor.[/quote]
This is not a logical argument. One presumes that the resort staff are trustworthy, and anyway there were family there by then.
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- why are you so reticent with your OWN personal OPINION in regard to the question posed by the op 