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 Post subject: Todays News - Case being Possibly Shelved (merged)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:20 am 
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Title is self explanatory.Whilst I never expected charges to be brought I know alot of you guys got your hopes up as a result of Coldwater telling you what you wanted to hear.Sorry guys.

For the record IMO her death was planned before May.

The Portuguese authorities sold there sovereign nation(lol) out.

Operation Ore all over again.

All IMO of course.

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 Post subject: sky rolling news now reporting madeleine
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Is now reporting that police investigation is ending!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese
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So if this is true, when they go to court next week, will they be allowed to get the witness statement off the LP?

I hope that little girl haunts them for the rest of her life. They neglected her and it is saying to everyone that what they did was OK.

What a very sad day.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Well, maybe they ARE innocent after all... (not for neglect of course)


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Clarrie is saying that this news is once again from unnamed sources.Wants arguido status lifted, information shared with metodo 3 and the PJ to continue the search for Maddy.

Says metodo 3 are hardworking and very diligent, wont talk specifics, urging all the ppl that contacted the police in portugal or the Uk to contact metodo3 so they can do the job thoroughly.Aledges no evidence whatsoever that Maddy has been hurt in any way.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:32 am 
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So does being shelved mean they are saying the McCanns are innocent?

There is no way they are innocent of neglect, is that not a crime in Portugal.

I am totally confused this morning as to what this actually means.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Mitchell on GMTV now saying not heard case dropped officially.

GMTV reporting news from Portuguese press.

Mitchell "concerned" that case will be archived, says Metodo want files to keep looking for M


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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CM seemed not to know about the PJ move to shelve - but called for lifting of status of Mc's if true...

I dont believe that CM would be caught off guard in not knowing this breaking news...I cling to the hope that this is just recycled gossip.

Sky reporting Portuguese media - not their own breaking news!


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Clarence is on now with Fiona on GMTV.
I can't believe it is going to be dropped?


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:35 am 
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Syy report:

Judicial police "do not have sufficient evidence to allow formal charges to be brought against the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter," the Correio da Manha newspaper said.

"The police have not found the guilty," echoed the Jornal de Noticias daily.


So, at the moment it's news based on the portuguese press.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:37 am 
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Surely they cannot be allowed to have witness statements to pass to M3 if this is true?

Will they be allowed to still have the papers if they are not being charged, or will they just be put in the file as such times that more evidence comes to light?

I would not like to have my name and details passed onto the McCanns or M3.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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BBC now have it as 'Breaking News'


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Hold on a second. I saw the GMTV report and the way I read it is that they're calling off the search. Does that mean the McCanns are still suspects and they're continuing with this line of enquiry?


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clarrie said the police are quite right to acknowledge that the parents were not involved - (it didnt say that ANYWHERE did it??) whilst in the other breath saying its all unsubstantiated reports as usual from unnamed sources


questions (sorry if asked before)

if the case is shelved and no charges laid, what happens on july 14th - does the evidence become public or do only the mccanns lawyers get to see it?

would the PJ really hand over their evidence to metodo 3?

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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Strange how SKY news make this a breaking story and yet when it was found out about Maddie being made a ward of court by her parents then hardly anything.
Sickening if true!

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i think i'll wait untill i hear the fat lady......

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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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newperson wrote:
clarrie said the police are quite right to acknowledge that the parents were not involved - whilst in the other breath saying its all unsubstantiated reports as usual from unnamed sources


questions (sorry if asked before)

if the case is shelved and no charges laid, what happens on july 14th - does the evidence become public or do only the mccanns lawyers get to see it?

would the PJ really hand over their evidence to metodo 3?




Hi newsperson, yes that is what I am trying to find out. Also does it mean they are innocent of any wrong doing? I really cannot understand it as the neglect issue alone, from what I have seen is proven. Will the status be dropped? Oh so many questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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something not right and not even official and yet they are saying it is breaking news .They may shelve the case and leave them in limbo for years.

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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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On TV today Clarence use almost the exactly the words he used once before.

Each time he said that the Portuguese police are dropping the case.

Each time he said that if they are then they want the McCann's arguido status dropped.

Each time he said that if they are dropping the case then they wanted access to all the documents so that their detective agency, who are doing an excellent job, can continue the search.


I cannot remember the events that lead to him saying this last time but whatever it was it did not result in the PJ's giving up.

Nor did it involve the release from arguido status or handing over the files.

I cannot remember what it heralded last time - maybe the interviewing of the Tapas 7?


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Sky reporter just said to clarence mitchell "saying they havent enough evidence is not the same as saying the mcscams are innocent" LOL

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something not right and not even official and yet they are saying it is breaking news .They may shelve the case and leave them in limbo for years.



i read it to be quite accusatory.

they don't have enough proof to charge..... maybe that is just me.

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Clarence earlier on sky...unsourced and unconfirmed


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 Post subject: Re: Sky News = McCann case dropped by Portuguese (Merged)
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Heres some news for you all
Out in the real world, people whose lives did not revolve around a witch hunt for a couple of hapless doctors from Rothley, all knew since about last Christmas that they had nothing to do with the disappearance of their little girl, Madeleine!
Coldwater, and Ellibean et al. have led you all a merry dance. Trying to be optimistic I would hope that you would all look back on your posts and realize how foolish you’ve been, but I guess for a lot of you its just time to move on to the next sensational story.


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union78 wrote:
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clarrie said the police are quite right to acknowledge that the parents were not involved - whilst in the other breath saying its all unsubstantiated reports as usual from unnamed sources


questions (sorry if asked before)

if the case is shelved and no charges laid, what happens on july 14th - does the evidence become public or do only the mccanns lawyers get to see it?

would the PJ really hand over their evidence to metodo 3?




Hi newsperson, yes that is what I am trying to find out. Also does it mean they are innocent of any wrong doing? I really cannot understand it as the neglect issue alone, from what I have seen is proven. Will the status be dropped? Oh so many questions.


i wouldnt have thought it suggests anywhere they are innocent of any wrong doing - all i've read is that the case with all the evidence will be given to the prosecutor to decide within the next day or so what is going to happen next

in general no evidence or not enough evidence doesn't necessarily mean no wrong doing

im going to go read the stinkysardine thread 21 steps see if i can find the answer in there about the files

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