Gerry's Big Red Sports Bag
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Gerry's Big Red Sports Bag
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I hope the PJ have checked this Big Red bag is still in Gerry's possesion
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:
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I would never let a almost 4 year old walk this way , on her own,in such a situation. She could get scared ,run away and get run hit by a passing vehicule.., she might fall.., God knows what might happen to a 4 old girl.
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scrafen
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:52 am Post subject:
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the pic with the sports bag is from the airport-video?
does anyone have a link to the airport-video, as i *CANNOT* find it anymore on youtube
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Party_at_mine
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:
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awwww i've never seen this video....bless her
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Dizzy
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Gerry's Big Red Sports Bag
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[quote="waccy"]I hope the PJ have checked this Big Red bag is still in Gerry's possesion
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Was this the video that was released I cant remember seeing Gerry when it was released but heard the whoops there you are typ comment?
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waccy
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:
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[quote="scrafen"]the pic with the sports bag is from the airport-video?
does anyone have a link to the airport-video, as i *CANNOT* find it anymore on youtube [/quote]
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You've got me confused I have linked to the airport video not a picture.
The reason I used this link is that it is a longer clip than used by most and it clearly shows Gerry and all his hand luggage. The sound seems better too but I didn't really want to draw attention to the fact that Madeleine's fall can be clearly heard.
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Dizzy
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject:
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[quote="waccy"][quote="scrafen"]the pic with the sports bag is from the airport-video?
does anyone have a link to the airport-video, as i *CANNOT* find it anymore on youtube [/quote]
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You've got me confused I have linked to the airport video not a picture.
The reason I used this link is that it is a longer clip than used by most and it clearly shows Gerry and all his hand luggage. The sound seems better too but I didn't really want to draw attention to the fact that Madeleine's fall can be clearly heard.
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But there is a question in this it's self who released the video and who chose to shorten it. for the public and who took it. Oh and why is it not upright?
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Dizzy
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject:
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and having watched it again the voice says opps dear are you alright, and it doesnt sound like a scottish accent
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scrafen
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:
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yes, sorry, it takes ages, till something is loaded here...
so there were TWO airport videos:
(1) in the bus
(2) entering the plane
i find it funny..."oops"...
but - the video (1) - airport bus - i cant really find anymore on youtube...
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mum2four
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:
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[quote="Dizzy"]and having watched it again the voice says opps dear are you alright, and it doesnt sound like a scottish accent[/quote]
It sounds like the guy who was videoing the holiday party on the shuttle bus when Gerry told him to **** off.
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scrafen
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:
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[quote="Dizzy"]But there is a question in this it's self who released the video and who chose to shorten it. for the public and who took it. Oh and why is it not upright?[/quote]
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fiona payne was on the shuttle bus with her mother diane webster...
so it was guessed here, it might be DAVID PAYNE who was taping...
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thentherewere4
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject:
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Its Gerry.
The reason you dont recognise his voice is because hes sounding concerned and in all the news interviews he has given youve never heard concern in his voice.
This is Gerrys child friendly voice.
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soapsuds
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Oh good grief
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Jesus people.
He asked her if she is ok, just like any parent would.
A child falls over a price of paper if you'd let them all she is doing is walking with her friend, stop reading into things that are clearly not there.
You are just picking - its not constructive
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scrafen
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject:
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[quote="thentherewere4"]Its Gerry.[/quote]
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think so too, and on the airport-bus-video he was wearing a white shirt, i remember...
and the OP posted it was gerry with the red bag...and the guy behind the girls is this one...
and the voice in the airport bus was more intense...
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Dizzy
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject:
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[quote="mum2four"][quote="Dizzy"]and having watched it again the voice says opps dear are you alright, and it doesnt sound like a scottish accent[/quote]
It sounds like the guy who was videoing the holiday party on the shuttle bus when Gerry told him to **** off.[/quote]
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Your right. I would say the person taking the video was David Payne, as on the bus it is Fiona Payne and her mother that act naturally when he films. So the video is released from David Paynes or Fionas mobile, who happen to be the only people reportedly that used some sort of baby sitting tool.
Dont worry about me I am just typing out loud
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Hi Sasha
Yet another excellent post from yourself.
Hope you don't mind but I've posted it on my blog too, as I'm following Bren's forum thread about the Unanswered Questions and this is another one of those unanswered questions.
I've posted a picture on my blog that shows the blue tennis bag in the wardrobe and Eddie sniffing the same location.
Hello Jkh,
I’m over the moon you’ve posted it on your blog, thank you. The more these things are shared the better I think. What a good idea to add the picture with Eddie sniffing the location alongside the photograph of the bag on the shelf with the Youtube news video, it really adds impact to the likelihood of there being a missing blue tennis bag and shows the possible reason behind it being missing!
Your blog is brilliant.... So many details and photographs, you’ve helped greatly to put things into perspective.
There’s another “unanswered question” that might be connected with the missing tennis bag.....I remember hearing about a sports bag being washed up on a beach in Portugal but can’t find any references to it now. If the internet was scourged of all information about the missing tennis bag (the video now proves the news did in fact report it) then I think it’s possible the washed up bag might also be true but once again the internet has been cleaned.
I meant to say it's all thanks to Ironside for posting the link to the Youtube video :)
Yes, I thought that photo might help as soon as I saw your post. It also gave me the opportunity to post Himself's brilliant picture of the blue bag being whooshed by the person who denied its existence! :))
I don't recall reading about the blue bag being washed up on the beach...? Hopefully it did and the PJ have it.
Thanks for the compliments about my blog - it never amazes me just how much information there is about two 'ordinary' doctors who went on a weeks' holiday and lost a child.
This really is the Scam of the Century in my opinion.
And I will always keep in mind Himself's quote about them soon becoming the most despicable and infamous pair of criminals in English history.
Get 'em Goncalo!
Fab blog, Sasha! xx
Maybe the "bag washed up on the beach" is just gossip then...if that's the case then I hope I haven't put the myth back in the circuit by querying it. Last thing needed is more red herrings taking up time.
Thank you Jkh :)
Just because I haven't heard about it doesn't mean it's gossip. There may well be something in it, I don't know.
Ironside is brilliant at finding out all sorts of things and I'm sure he/she will be along soon with the answer!
Fisherman were asked by PJ to keep a look out for a blue bag. Something washed up on the shore in the early days a childs pink top. Kate was asked if she recogniosed it and she said No.Will try and find a link. Sasha as you mentioned a lot has been removed from the early days, will have a look and see if Nige from Mccann files has anything.
IRONSIDE
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The documentary comes as Kate and Gerry McCann, both 39, of Rothley, Leics, face their first Christmas without their four-year-old daughter, who went missing in Praia da Luz on May 3.
In the broadcast, Prof David Barclay, a forensic expert, says it is unusual for children of Madeleine's age to be abducted by paedophiles.
xxxxx
Am still looking ,you find these links in the strangest of places...Looking at old posts from 2007, it seems a bag was washed up but it was not Mccanns...without a link though this means nothing.
IRON:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318233,00.html
This from Fox...It would seem at this moment in time, Murdoch was NOT on the mccanns side.
IRON
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article616714.ece
Picture of bag shown in reconstruction.
IRON:
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/DAYS_201_250.htm
Sasha this is another excellent blog for information...
PAMALAM...
Some very good photos. Pamalam also has some info. on the blue bag.
IRON:
Ironside, thank you so much for all your work. I didn't know about the reconstruction or at least I don't remember seeing a reconstruction about the missing bag.
If that was Madeleine's top would Kate McCann say she recognised it? I'm starting to doubt she would.
Ironic....in the beginning I believed the McCann couple and the news didn't and now they do and I don't lol. Or maybe they were paid off (or threatened?) in the early days to be more favourable and economical with their reports and that's why it looks like they've switched their opinions?
I've got a link to Pamalam's site on the right, but I get an error message each time I try to go on. Might be my server or computer because my friend can get there.
Damn, I'm getting good at this prediction stuffy. I said Ironside would be along in a mo and there he was - 8 mins!
SuperIronside :))
If only I could predict the outcome of his horrible case....
Ok, I'll have a go - Goncalo is gonna win!!
Get 'em Goncalo!
Can you send me the lottery numbers in an email please Jkh ;)
You know, Goncalo seems a man with conviction and also a gentleman. He hasn't said anything (as far as I know) horrible about the McCann couple in response to the banning of his book....just facts as he knows them. What a good man :)
Hi JKH. Sasha, I predict that this weeks lottery win will contain the numbers 6 and 2. I am not prepared to say anymore ,it may harm "the investigation·" lol...
With regards to the pink top, I also wonder why none of the tapas were asked or even the nannies who spent more time with madeleine on that fateful holiday.
If I find anything else will let you know. I still think Nige on Mccanns is our best bet.
Have you tried just googling Pamalam Mccanns . and see what comes up? Have a good day.
IRON:
Good morning :)
Now that you've given two numbers I'm going to have to use them lol. Is that for Friday or Saturday? I'm going with 28 & 34....two more numbers and we'll have a full house.
You're right, there doesn't seem to be anything about what Madeleine was wearing during the day. I'm not convinced she was wearing pyjamas when she "disappeared."
I'll have a search on the McCann Files later when I get back home.
I can get to Pamalam's other site "Pamalam's World" okay but even when I click on the "Gerry's McCann's Blog" link from there I still get the error message....strange. I might pop into Charlie's on the way home and see if she can get there without any problems.
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-491653/Bag-clothes-dumped-near-Portugal-airport-shows-DNA-links-Maddie.html
There was also this bag....
I am going to go with ,well ,friday was my first thought but I have now changed it to Saturday...Sorry sasha ,it is one of my dithering days.
IRON
It’s looking like the “washed up bag on the beach” is a myth. I went to McCann Files before going out but didn’t find anything with the search criteria I used.
Thank you Ironside for trying. Yes, I found the one about the bag found near Faro airport....think that’s another red herring thrown in for good measure. I don’t think anything came of it?
Charlie can’t get on Pamalam’s site either but she gets a different message to me. Odd.
That’s okay....I was thinking Saturday too :)
pamalam@hotmail.co.uk
Try contacting Pamalam direct Sasha and see if she can help you..It really is a site you should take a look at.
IRON:
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic199.html
Go to Joanas site and she explains how to access Pamalam...Some also seem to being having trouble.
IRON:
Thank you Ironside, I looked at the instructions but can't find the file in my system files Joana mentioned...I'm not the most fantastically computer minded person.
Strange how some can get to Pamalam's site yet some others can't, even more strange is me and Charlie get different error messages.
Can you get on Pamalam's site?
yeah JKH blog is brilliant if you are a messed up paedophile. Do you know that JKh counts among her friends a man who masterbates over a picture of a still born baby?
But you carry on being over the moon Sasha, one day when you get a brain you may even learn how to use it.
Just realised there is ony 3 people who use this blog two cerebrally challenged sahsa and ironside and a paedophile lover JKH rotlmao
My brain is fine thank you and in tiptop condition :) Yours obviously needs a good cleansing. Do you have any proof for your accusations or are you just spouting for the sensationalism?
Lol...there’s more who read and send me emails than post comments on the blog but does that really matter? Apparently to you it does. Ever heard of emails Jke? (by the way the letter 'h' is the next row of keys down and to the right)
Sometimes things are better said in private than in public – you obviously haven’t learnt that art yet, but then I don’t suppose that matters to you considering you’re only posting comments for self gratification ;)
Sasha. I think it is safe to say that if you and JKH were not a threat to Team McCann, you would never be troubled by these McCannistas.
The fact that you are pestered by such people should give you all the confidence in the world to carry on seeking justice for Madeleine.
Were she to have relied upon her parents and the people they have employed to date, I think we can clearly see that this would have been swept under the same carpet as the Hollie Greig case.