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The POWER OF SUGGESTION..Each comment has a reason.
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HiDeHo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: The POWER OF SUGGESTION..Each comment has a reason.Report this post Reply with quote

To achieve the presumption of innocence there has to be a lot of planning.

From the first moment..everything that is 'said and 'done' has a reason behind
it to distract from the truth.

The power of suggestion seems to be the route they have taken.....

It has a similarity to this part of Hitlers psychological profile....

"....His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault
or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never
leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at
a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big
lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will
sooner or later believe it....."

During all the discussions they have had, each 'problem' has resulted in a
plan....a comment...an action

We have been watching the plan unfold, but I think many clues are within each
statement...or action

Each problem they face has no doubt been discussed and a public comment
allocated to that problem....so when we hear those 'out of place' contrived
comments, there is no doubt a problem that they are trying to conceal.

I have addressed my thoughts about why Kate would say Maddy said she had
the 'best day ever' and Gerry saying how she looked the last time her saw her...
on this thread..
http://web.archive.org/web/20080113061152/http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=35521&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Every day I'm sure they plan about what to say....I'd like to know the reason
behind each comment or action...

The main one being 'Abduction' suggestion
Trip to Huelva..Why?
Comment about the bead in hair...Why? etc etc.

What are some of the other 'contived' comments and actions?
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mexx



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: The POWER OF SUGGESTION..Each comment has a reason.Report this post Reply with quote

[quote="HiDeHo"]To achieve the presumption of innocence there has to be a lot of planning.

From the first moment..everything that is 'said and 'done' has a reason behind
it to distract from the truth.

The power of suggestion seems to be the route they have taken.....

It has a similarity to this part of Hitlers psychological profile....

"....His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault
or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never
leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at
a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big
lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will
sooner or later believe it....."

During all the discussions they have had, each 'problem' has resulted in a
plan....a comment...an action

We have been watching the plan unfold, but I think many clues are within each statement...or action

Each problem they face has no doubt been discussed and a public comment
allocated to that problem....so when we hear those 'out of place' contrived
comments, there is no doubt a problem that they are trying to conceal.

I have addressed my thoughts about why Kate would say Maddy said she had
the 'best day ever' and Gerry saying how she looked the last time her saw her...
on this thread..
http://web.archive.org/web/20080113061152/http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=35521&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Every day I'm sure they plan about what to say....I'd like to know the reason
behind each comment or action...

The main one being 'Abduction' suggestion
Trip to Huelva..Why?
Comment about the bead in hair...Why? etc etc.

What are some of the other 'contived' comments and actions?[/quote]

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Agree. The truth is what they are NOT saying, and no doubt the PJ are looking into this. They didn't mention the sports bag, did they?

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ferret



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Is this why they always read from a script and have never spoken from the heart
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moonforest



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

The colour coordinated clothes always struck me as an attempt to underscore the "togetherness" of the McCanns. Also, early on he wore baby blue and she wore baby pink tops.....colours we would normally associate with innocence.
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sally66



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

The situation Madeleine finds herself in

We regret not being there at the moment she was taken

The twins may have been given something (by the abductor) jon corner film

The bead bugs me too, IMO if/when it goes to court the reason will be known
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P20



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Intelligent and thought-provoking OP.

Good responses.

Great thread
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Jenna1



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Bump.
This is an interesting discussion which shouldn't be allowed to slip off the page before more people have had a chance to contribute.
Maybe posters better informed than myself will remember more seemingly innocent comments which now appear planted??
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JillyComeLately



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

.

The Tiny Tears reference has long puzzled me.

Could it have been an attempt to deceive re a text message that is difficult to explain?

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terrybull



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: The POWER OF SUGGESTION..Each comment has a reason.Report this post Reply with quote

[quote="HiDeHo"]To achieve the presumption of innocence there has to be a lot of planning.

From the first moment..everything that is 'said and 'done' has a reason behind
it to distract from the truth.

The power of suggestion seems to be the route they have taken.....

It has a similarity to this part of Hitlers psychological profile....

"....His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault
or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never
leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at
a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big
lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will
sooner or later believe it....."

During all the discussions they have had, each 'problem' has resulted in a
plan....a comment...an action

We have been watching the plan unfold, but I think many clues are within each
statement...or action

Each problem they face has no doubt been discussed and a public comment
allocated to that problem....so when we hear those 'out of place' contrived
comments, there is no doubt a problem that they are trying to conceal.

I have addressed my thoughts about why Kate would say Maddy said she had
the 'best day ever' and Gerry saying how she looked the last time her saw her...
on this thread..
http://web.archive.org/web/20080113061152/http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=35521&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Every day I'm sure they plan about what to say....I'd like to know the reason
behind each comment or action...

The main one being 'Abduction' suggestion
Trip to Huelva..Why?
Comment about the bead in hair...Why? etc etc.

What are some of the other 'contived' comments and actions?[/quote]

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When 'all is said and done', there'll be nothing left to say or do.
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tas2



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

while I believe this may well be the case... all the planned scripts, attitude and colour co-ordinating... the point is: IT HASN'T WORKED HAS IT???

Hang on... I feel a Lucian coming on...

THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC TODAY DO NOT BELIEVE THE MCCANNS ARE INNOCENT = FACT.!!
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HiDeHo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

[quote]Is this why they always read from a script and have never spoken from the heart [/quote]

ferret..I would presume its less likely to say an 'incriminating' word or comment
when you have a script....eg. Talking about her in the past tense when you say you are searching for her.

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[quote]The colour coordinated clothes always struck me as an attempt to
underscore the "togetherness" of the McCanns. Also, early on he wore baby
blue and she wore baby pink tops.....colours we would normally associate with
innocence.[quote]

moonforest....I can't say I have noticed that but if it was a constant I would
certainly wonder Confused

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[quote]The situation Madeleine finds herself in

We regret not being there at the moment she was taken

The twins may have been given something (by the abductor) jon corner film

The bead bugs me too, IMO if/when it goes to court the reason will be known.[quote]

sally66....'the situation'....detatchment from blame?

"..We regret not being there at the moment she was taken.."...denial of
responsibility redirecting blame to 'abductors'?

"...The twins may have been given something (by the abductor) jon corner
film..." Explanation of why twins sleeping..redirecting blame?

"....The bead bugs me too, IMO if/when it goes to court the reason will be
known...."....I agree..there is some significance somewhere

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.[quote]The Tiny Tears reference has long puzzled me.

Could it have been an attempt to deceive re a text message that is difficult to
explain? [/quote

JillyComeLately...I havent really looked into that comment...but I will! Wink


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Limetea



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

LOL

I wonder if it is possible to summarise the bead thing in one paragraph? I got very confused a while ago. Was it in hair which was found, and Kate had said she'd pulled out, or something?
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Limetea



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

LOL

I wonder if it is possible to summarise the bead thing in one paragraph? I got very confused a while ago. Was it in hair which was found, and Kate had said she'd pulled out, or something?
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HiDeHo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

[quote]while I believe this may well be the case... all the planned scripts,
attitude and colour co-ordinating... the point is: IT HASN'T WORKED HAS IT???
[/quote]

tas 2....Thanks to the power of the internet and forums like this, there is an
immediate response to the lies..

There are still quite a few people that still believe in their innocence
though..very often those that havent been following the case..
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sally66



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

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.[quote]The Tiny Tears reference has long puzzled me.

Could it have been an attempt to deceive re a text message that is difficult to
explain? [/quote

JillyComeLately...I havent really looked into that comment...but I will! Wink


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I think so and similair to the bead I think when it goes to court we'll all go aaah that's what that was all about
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