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GERRY MCCANN
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   SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
 7am Asked, he stated that apart from her own apartment, MADELEINE only ever entered DAVID and FIONA’s apartment, although it was common that they frequented each others' apartments.

That, between Monday and Wednesday, not knowing the precise date, when they were leaving the residence through the main door, to place the children in the respective crèches, MADELEINE left running to the left, to the extreme opposite of the residential blocks where they were lodged, playing with the twins. That they walked down next to the most remote end of one of those blocks, not knowing exactly which one, and the three children got into one of the gardens at the back. Then they walked down the inside alley at the back, next to the hedges, up to the street that led to the secondary reception.
         on the morning of May 3rd, MADELEINE asked her father, GERALD, why he had not come into her bedroom when the twins were crying. The deponent had heard nothing and therefore had not gone into the room, yet he thought his daughter’s comment was strange, even because it was the first time that she made it.

On the day that MADELEINE disappeared, Thursday, 3 May 2007, they all woke up at the same time, between 07H30 and 08H00. When they were having breakfast, MADELEINE addressed her mother and asked her “why didn't you come last night when SEAN and I were crying?” (SIC). That he thought this comment very strange given that MADELEINE had never spoken like this and, the night before, they had maintained the same system of checking on the children, not having detected anything abnormal. When he questioned her about the comment, she left without any explanation.
     
 8am
 He does not know what days were scheduled for cleaning the apartment.

He now states that he also pushed the two single beds in his room together, which had been separated by a night table. He did that to transform the two beds into a double bed.

Regarding the windows, he says they were normally closed, he does not know if they were locked, with the shutters also closed. Regarding Madeleine’s window he says that he made sure the shutters worked so as to darken the room for the children.

On the day of arrival, he does not know if the shutters in Madeleine’s room were open, and if they were, he closed them. He did not open them again, and does not know if somebody else did. When confronted with a testimony that states having seen the shutters to that window open after their arrival, he says that it was not him who opened them.

When asked about the window behind one of the sofas in the living room, he says that yes, he remembers the window but does not remember if the shutters were also closed.

Regarding this sofa, he remembers it was drawn against the window. He is not sure, but thinks that this sofa was probably a bit further away from the window, and he vaguely remembers pushing it back a bit, because his children threw objects behind it, namely playing cards. When asked, he does not know if any of the children was behind the sofa or passed behind this sofa.

 Concerning routines, he mentions that on Sunday, they had breakfast, between 7.30 and 8.30am at the Ocean Club, namely in the resort’s bar a few metres away from the apartment., (?)

The following day (Sunday), the children woke up at 08h00, the deponent and his wife having woken up at around 07h30. They got dressed and at about 08h40 they left the apartment going to the MILLENIUM restaurant, once more on foot and by the same route as on the previous night, but without the mistake referred to previously, arriving there at 08h45/09h00.
 On the following days they always took breakfast at home, shopping on the day before, generally maintaining the daily routine described above.. .   RAIN NOTENNIS
 
 
   
 9am    On the following days, because the war was rather distant, they started buying food at the supermarket, located on the same road as the apartment, whose name he cannot recall. After breakfast, the children were left at one of the Club's crèches, called the "Kid Club," where they participated in various activities such as painting, collage etc., until around 12.30, always supervised by several employees, in a ratio of one to three children.

The group did not all arrive at the same time, rather in a phased manner, therefore they were not all seated at the same table.

He thinks that MATHEW and his wife RACHEL did not take breakfast due to the former having spent a bad night with vomiting and diarrhoea. At breakfast the children again sat at the same table among the adults, and it finished at around 09h25.

The deponent, his wife KATE and their three children went to the OCEAN CLUB by the same route, where they arrived at 09h40, the deponent having entered the apartment by the main door, which was locked, collecting a bag with clothing and creams for the children, then going inside the resort area. The twins stayed at the crèche next to the TAPAS, which was for children aged between one and two, and then he and KATE took MADELEINE to the other crèche for older children, which is located on the 1st floor at the resort’s main reception, where they arrived at around 09h50. Besides MADELEINE, from the group, only Ella, the daughter of JANE and RUSSEL, went to the same crèche. The remaining children, being very young, stayed at the crèche next to the TAPAS.

Again he went on foot, leaving the secondary reception he turned right, went down the street passing the “BATISTA” supermarket, turned left passing the main reception. After putting the children in their crèches they went to the “BATISTA” supermarket where they bought items for the following lunch and breakfast.
 When the children were at the crèches they had tennis classes, KATE at 09h15, the deponent an hour later, from Monday to Thursday.

 
 RAIN
NO TENNIS
 
 . Back to Thursday, after breakfast, about 09h00, KATE and the children left by the back door, the deponent having left by the front door, which he locked with the key, having also closed and locked the back door from the inside.

They made their way on foot down the usual route to the crèche next to the TAPAS, where they left the twins, and, while KATE stayed to play tennis, the deponent took MADELEINE to her crèche, through the short-cut, where they arrived at 09h15, and , since it was obligatory, he signed the child's attendance register. On returning, not by the short-cut, he went to the “BATISTA” supermarket where he bought milk, he presumes, making his way to his apartment, entering through the front door, which was locked by key, at around 09H40/09H45.

He remained at home for about 15 minutes, putting on tennis clothes
 
   
 10am    While the children were at the "Kid Club," the deponent played tennis with his wife, went for walks, read and practised "jogging."    It is not true that on a certain day they placed one crib in their room, leaving the other in Madeleine’s room.

RAIN
NO TENNIS


 
Apart from what has been described, Madeleine and the other children went sailing on the beach, a five minute walk from the club, for an hour. This outing was organised by the resort itself and is part of an available chart. The supervision and organisation was done by the resort, therefore the deponent was not present, nor was his wife.

 left by the front door, that he did not lock, and made his way to the tennis courts down the usual route, they being next to the TAPAS. He played tennis for an hour with the instructor and other students, among whom was an individual he had met during this holiday, called "JEZ", and with whom he had established not quite a friendship, but rather a simple acquaintance. "JEZ" has two small children whose exact age he does not know. As to his wife, he had seen her next to the pool but had never spoken with her.

 
   
 11am        
 
The tennis class finished at 11H15, he stayed in the pool area talking with his wife and other people, whom he does not remember.
 
   
 Midday
 Concerning the events in Portugal, as already stated in his previous statements, he arrived at Faro airport on 28 April 2007 at around 12h30, having travelled immediately to the OCEAN CLUB in an airport mini-bus where he arrived at around 14h20/14h30.
 At 12.30 pm, the parents went to collect the children and had lunch in the apartment, given the fact that it had a kitchen.

At around 12H30, the deponent and KATE first went to pick up MADELEINE and then the twins, going to the apartment. On this day, Sunday, they had lunch on the balcony of David Payne's apartment with the whole group, including children, except for MATHEW, who was ill and at that moment was sleeping on the balcony of his apartment that was below and to the left in relation to where they were having lunch.
 
From memory, on Tuesday, 1 May 2007, by indication from RUSSEL, he went to pick up MADELEINE at the crèche using a short-cut that began at the car park opposite the secondary reception and went between the buildings, which he used to fetch and take his daughter from then on.
 At 12H00, he agreed with KATE, as he recalls it, that she would make lunch and the deponent would pick up MADELEINE. He thinks that it was KATE who took the twins home. Since it was he who went to collect MADELEINE, he is sure he used the short-cut.
NOTE: Kate claims she went back to the apartment at 12.15 and then picked Madeleine up with Fiona.

Fiona claims they stayed at the pool and then went to pick Madeleine up

Catriona cannot remember who picked Madeleine up

The creche records show Kate 12.25)


At 12h30 they started lunch, the meal having lasted an hour, until 13h30
 
 
   
 1pm    After lunch, at around 1.30 pm, the children spent time near the club's swimming pool, supervised by their parents, for around 45 minutes, where they played, applied sun cream etc.    Apart from the Kid Club, and the apartment, they only went to the beach once with Madeleine and other children and for a short time, given the fact that the weather was unstable. On the beach, they only ate an ice cream and went back to the apartment.


 Concerning the routine, on Tuesday there was a slight change given that after lunch, at 13h30, the deponent and KATE decided to take the three children to Praia da Luz, having gone on foot, taking only the twins in baby buggies. They all left by the main door because of the buggies, went around to the right, down the street of the “BATISTA” supermarket and went to the beach along a road directly ahead.


 
 the meal having lasted an hour, until 13h30. After that time they made their way to the resort play area, the deponent having left through the front door and the rest of the family through the back door that, once again, he shut and locked from the inside. As for the front door, he does not know exactly if he locked it.
NOTE: Kate claims differently about the door)
     
 2pm
 The meeting point was the Ocean Club in Portugal. The deponent's group arrived there at 2.30 pm on April 28th from Faro airport on an airport mini bus. The other group arrived the same day at around 1 pm, also using a mini bus.

After checking in, the deponent and his wife, KATE HEALY, their daughter, MADELEINE, and their two year-old twins SEAN and AMELIE, were placed in apartment G5A. The apartment consisted of two beds in one bedroom, and two others in another room, in which were two cots on loan from the resort, in addition to the bathroom a kitchen.

The deponent and his wife slept in one of the bedrooms and in the other, their three children: the twins in cots and MADELEINE in a bed. The other bed remained empty

on the day they arrived, April 28, they removed two cots that were in their room, and placed them in Madeleine’s room. He is unable to confirm, but it could be possible, that there were 3 cribs, and they asked for one to be removed.
 After that time, the children returned to the "Kid Club"


They took the children to the play area next to the pool, where the playground is located, at 14H15, having stayed there until about 14H20. After that time they left the twins in the crèche at TAPAS, and either the deponent or KATE, he doesn't know who, took MADELEINE to the crèche above the main reception, following the previously described route. He clarifies that the children’s drop-off and collection times were recorded at each crèche along with the contact number and location of the respective parents.
   They were at the beach for about 20 minutes, the deponent and MADELEINE having put their feet in the water. During this time the weather changed with a cloudy sky and cold, therefore they went to a terrace at a café near the beach, on the left, where they bought five ice-creams and two drinks. Asked, he said that at that place there was an individual playing latin music on a guitar, to whom he intended to give some coins, but having none at the time, he didn't. That the individual had a neglected and careless appearance, unshaven and somewhat raggedy. He was Caucasian, 175cm tall, thin, 70 to 75kg in weight, dark, short hair, almost shaven-headed with grey sides, and not wearing glasses. Wearing a light brown-coloured sports jacket, with a hood at the back, and dark denim trousers, not noticing the footwear. He said that he never behaved strangely, nor approached or looked at the children in an ostensive manner. On returning they left the children at their crèches, as usual, the deponent and his wife having gone to play tennis or jogging.

He further clarifies that the only time MADELEINE accompanied them to the beach was the one described above, although she went to the beach in Luz three more times, one of those to go sailing, but always in the company of crèche nannies. Two of these trips took place after the date on which she was there with her parents. That, with respect to those episodes, MADELEINE never mentioned to him that anything strange had happened.
 They stayed in the play area for approximately an hour, until 14H30/14H35. After that, they left the twins at the crèche near the TAPAS, they signed the register, and the three of them (deponent, KATE and MADELEINE) made their way to the crèche at the main reception, where they arrived at 14H50 and delivered MADELEINE, not being able to say precisely who signed the register.

NOTE: Catriona does not remember who dropped her off
 
   
 3pm  That, on the first day, given that they arrived at lunch time, they ate only sandwiches both on the plane and on the bus during the journey from the airport to the OCEAN CLUB. After completing the check-in at the main reception, where they were dropped off by the mini-bus, which lasted until 15h00, they went to the apartment where they unpacked their bags, which lasted 16h45. Pointing out that after check-in, the trip with the bags to the apartment was made on a mini-bus that belonged to the resort.


     
 The deponent and KATE returned to the OCEAN CLUB by the short-cut and at the secondary reception they asked the lady employee if there was a vacant tennis court they could reserve. They were told there was a vacancy between 14H30 and 15H30. As it was already 15h00, they began to play immediately. At 15H30, the tennis instructor arrived, who taught them a class until 16H30

NOTE: Stephen Carpenter claims to have played all afternoon with Gerry)
 
4pm  SAT

  they unpacked their bags, which lasted 16h45.
SUN MON  TUE   WED
THUR
 They stayed there, talking, until 16H45, at which time the twins went to the meal area
     
 5pm

Subsequently, at around 17h00, the whole group, including children, went to the TAPAS restaurant, located at the back of the apartment, next to the pool, to attend a welcoming committee arranged by MARK WARNER, where they met the tennis and sailing instructors, and other resort employees, which ended at around 18h30, several glasses of sangria having been served to them.


That that was the first time they all walked together inside and around the resort. They left by the front door, which he locked with the key, he walked around the existing wall and turned right, going down the resort’s side road up to the secondary reception, where they entered without difficulty , although they had an access card, which was not requested from them and that they had been given during Check-in.

After they passed through the secondary reception, they went to the TAPAS restaurant, next to one of the swimming pools, the adults having sat down in a covered area outside, while the children stayed next to the small pool playing on the playground that was there. That during this time all the adults stood up and went to watch the children near where they were. The deponent and his wife took turns watching
.


 After that time, the children returned to the "Kid Club" until around 5 pm, when they had dinner at the bar, under the parents' supervision. After the 5 pm meal, the parents bathed them, got them ready for the night, and played for a little while in the play area next to the tennis courts, still under the parents' supervision.

At around 17h00 the OCEAN CLUB nannies conducted MADELEINE and the other children from the crèche on the 1st floor of the main reception to the area next to the TAPAS, under awnings, where they had dinner under the supervision of the employees and, at times, of their own parents. Dinner ended at around 17h30, the time at which the employees’ supervision ended
   
   At 17h00, as usual, MADELEINE arrived accompanied by the nannies and the other children. After her arrival, MADELEINE dined, having finished at 17H30.


After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent.

NOTE: Did Kate go jogging on the beach and wave to the others?) at 5.00pm
 
   
 6pm
 attend a welcoming committee arranged by MARK WARNER, where they met the tennis and sailing instructors, and other resort employees, which ended at around 18h30, several glasses of sangria having been served to them.

When the reception committee was over, the nine adults and eight children walked to the MILLENIUM restaurant. They went back to the secondary reception, turned left and, at the top of the road, turned right, then left again, then right again, up to the main street that leads to the restaurant. Because it was a long way, at some point in time the deponent and his wife KATE had to carry the twins in their arms, but not MADELEINE, who was always on foot.
 Dinner ended at around 17h30, the time at which the employees’ supervision ended and the parents took over watching the children in the ”TAPAS” play area until 18h30. Then they returned to the apartment, the deponent opened the main door with his key and, then, the back door through which KATE and the children entered.

     
 They bathed the children, the deponent having left at 18H00 for a tennis game only for men, which was attended by: DAN, the tennis instructor; JULIAN, with whom he had played tennis several times; and CURTIS, with whom he had also played before.

During the afternoon of that day, the rest of the group, including the children, were at the beach, having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DAVID PAYNE next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00

NOTE: Most T9 claim David played tennis and they all finished just before 8.00pm (in ROGS) and yet they all claim in early statements that they returned to their apartment at 7.00 not giving time for them all to play the hour and certainly not David who visited Kate)
We know they left the Paraiso at approx 6.20 with a 15 min walk?

DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00, trying to convince the deponent to continue to play tennis, which he refused, as he had already been plying for about an hour and had to go back to his wife. Nevertheless, RUSSEL, DAVID and MATHEW stayed to play.


Regarding the episode where he spoke to David on the 3rd of May, he says that he was playing tennis at 18:30 when David appeared near the tennis court and asked him through the net if he was going to continue playing. The deponent said he didn’t know because Kate might be needing help to look after the three children, even more so because they intended to bring them to the recreation area after their showers. He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later. Concerning his previous statement, where he states that David returned half an hour later, at around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court, after dressing up for the game.
 
   
 7pm They arrived at their destination between 18h50 and 19h00, having sat at a large table where they all had dinner, including the children who were seated among the adults, never leaving the place, except for one of the twins who went to the toilet with the deponent. About an hour later they finished dinner,  Towards 7.30/8 pm, the children were put to bed until the next morning, when the described routine described would start all over again.

After doing the hygiene, the children were put to bed about 19h30,
     
 Yesterday, after the daily routine, MADELEINE and the twins were put to bed in their respective beds, and he stresses put to bed, at 7.30 pm.

At around 19H00, he made his way to the apartment, finding KATE and the children playing on the sofa. About 10 to 15 minutes later, they took the children to the bedroom and they all sat on MADELEINE's bed to read a story. At 19H30, the twins were already in their respective cots and MADELEINE in the bed next to the bedroom door. He does not know if they were asleep but from the silence he presumed that they were. As it was still early he took a bath, he thinks that KATE had already done so, they talked a little and drank wine or beer.
 
   
 8pm
 
 About an hour later they finished dinner, and returned, equally walking, by the same route, though going wrong in one of the streets where they should have turned left, ending up only turning only at the next street. He adds that, as they were all very tired they went directly to the apartment, where they arrived at around 20h10/20h15, the route back having been slightly faster given that the twins were carried all the way.


In the apartment, they bathed the children and gave them a glass of milk, putting them to bed at exactly 20h45, he remembers that time because it was exactly one hour later than their usual bedtime. After putting the children to bed, the deponent and his wife took a bath, then settled down in the living room to watch television. He points out that at the moment they arrived at the residence, David Payne invited them to go for a glass of wine after putting down the children, but they turned down the offer as they were extremely tired. He thinks that nobody left their apartments on the first night. Asked, he said that in England, when not on holiday, the deponent and his wife would go to bed at 22h30/23h00, the twins at 19h00 and MADELEINE at 19H30.
.Between 19h30 and 20h30 they took a bath and drank wine, Portuguese or New Zealand, and a beer.


the deponent and KATE left for dinner at the TAPAS at around 20h30. 


 
They left the house through the main door, that he was sure he locked, and the back door was also closed and locked. They were the first to arrive at the TAPAS where everyone showed up except only for MATHEW, who was still ill. Nevertheless, his wife RACHEL showed up for dinner. Except for the situation described above, that occurred during lunch, he did not see MATHEW during the whole of Sunday.
     
 The deponent and his wife remained in the apartment to relax and drink a glass of wine until 8.30 pm. After checking the children, the deponent and his wife and the adults went to the "Tapas" restaurant, around 50 metres away, where they had dinner together.

At 20H35, they left the apartment towards the “TAPAS”. Before they left, and because the children's bedroom door was ajar as always, he opened it a little more, listening from the outside and, as there was complete silence, he did not even enter, returning the door to its previous position, with a space of about 10cm.

He is certain that, before leaving home, the children's bedroom was totally dark, with the window closed, but he does not know it was locked, the shutters closed but with some slats open, and the curtains also drawn closed. Asked, he mentions that during the night the artificial light coming in from the outside is very weak, therefore, without a light being lit in the living room or in the kitchen, the visibility inside the bedroom is much reduced. Despite what he said in his previous statements, he states now and with certainty, that he left with KATE through the back door which he consequently closed but did not lock, given that that is only possible from the inside. Concerning the front door, although he is certain that it was closed, it is unlikely that it was locked, because they left through the back door.

They took the usual route to the “TAPAS”, where they arrived a little after 20H35, not having passed on the route anyone known nor detected anything abnormal. Asked, he said that the dinner bookings were made since Monday, it was already the intention of the group to take their meals there. They were the first of the group to arrive, seating themselves at the biggest table, as usual, which is located in the middle between other tables, under an awning with a transparent plastic surface at the front. He mentions that they were seated at the table, in a position that allowed the deponent to see almost the entire back door of his apartment, through which they left and entered and which gave access to the living room.

He adds that, among other people whom he does not recall, at one of the small tables was the CARPENTER couple, whom he also met playing tennis and with whom they spoke until the other group members began to arrive. He does not recall the order of arrival but he has the idea that MATHEW and RACHEL were the first to arrive after the deponent. As time went by, the rest of the group arrived until all nine adults were there.
 
 
 
   
 9pm
 
 Dinner ended at around 23h00, and during this period, every half-hour, the deponent and KATE went, alternately, to the apartment to confirm that all was well with the children. On that day, only the deponent and his wife entered the apartment. He is sure that they always entered through the front door, not knowing if they locked it upon leaving. Usually they entered the apartment, in which one of the living room lights was on, went to the children's bedroom door, which was ajar, and only peeped inside, trying to hear if the children were crying. The shutters were closed with only two or three slats open, the window was closed though he is not totally sure if it was locked, and the curtains drawn closed. Ten minutes after dinner ended they made their way to the apartment, going to bed right away.
   Asked, he mentions that the daughter of RUSSEL and FIONA would have been ill on Tuesday  On Wednesday night, 2 May 2007, apart from the deponent and his wife, he thinks that DAVID PAYNE also went to his apartment to check that his children were well, not having reported to him any abnormal situation with the children.

On this day, the deponent and KATE had already left the back door closed, but not locked, to allow entrance by their group colleagues to check on the children. He clarifies that the main door was always closed but not necessarily locked with the key. He does not know if the window next to the front door, and that gave access to the children's bedroom, was locked, given that he assumed that the shutters could not be opened from the outside.
 When asked if in fact they went to the apartment every half hour, he says it is true, and that this was never forged to justify absences during dinner.


 As usual, every half hour and considering that the restaurant was close to the apartment, the deponent or his wife went to check if the children were ok. Thus, at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked, and went to the children's bedroom and noted that the twins and Madeleine were in perfect condition. He then went to the toilet, where he remained for a few instants, left the apartment, and then crossed ways with someone with whom he had played tennis, who had a baby buggy, also a British citizen, with whom he had a brief conversation. He then returned to the restaurant. At around 9.30 pm, his friend MATT (a member of the group) went to his apartment where his own children were, and on his way he went into the deponent's apartment, going in through a sliding glass door at the side of the building, which was always unlocked. He went into the room, saw the twins and didn’t even notice if Madeleine was there, as everything was quiet, the shutters closed and the bedroom door half-open as usual. Then MATT went back to the restaurant.
 
 It is stressed that when one of the members of the group, JANE, went to her apartment to see her children, at around 9.10/9.15 pm, from behind and at a distance of about 50 metres, on the road next to the club, she saw a person carrying a child in pyjamas. JANE will be better able to clarify this situation.

At around 21H00, MATHEW stood up from the table, saying that he was going to check on the children. Nevertheless, he did not say that he would go to check on the deponent’s children, and it was only after the disappearance of MADELEINE that he told him that at 21h00 the shutters of the children's bedroom window were closed. At 21H05, MATHEW returned, the time at which the deponent left the table to go check on his children.


 
He walked the normal route up to the back door, which being open he only had to slide, and while he was entering the living room, he noticed that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought was strange, having then thought that possibly MADELEINE had got up to go to sleep in his bedroom, so as to avoid the noise produced by her siblings. Therefore, he entered the children's bedroom and established visual contact with each of them, checking and he is certain of this, that the three were deeply asleep. He left the children's bedroom returning to place the door how he had already previously described, then went to the bathroom. Everything else was normal, the shutters, curtains and windows closed, very dark, there only being the light that came from the living room.

He adds that he did not enter any other part of the residence, where he was for only two or three minutes, leaving yet again through the back door, that he closed but did not lock. He clarifies that he returned without checking any other couple’s children, even because he had not been asked to do so.

After leaving through the side gate, and while on his way to the secondary reception entrance, less than 10 metres from the gate, he saw “JEZ” walking up the street on the opposite pavement, bringing with him a baby buggy with his youngest child. He crossed the road in JEZ's direction who was walking up on the right-hand side, in the ascending direction, both having chatted for 3 to 4 minutes, about tennis, holidays and children. While talking with JEZ, he saw no-one from the group, nor detected any suspicious individual or vehicle. Because he was specifically asked, he relates that during this period of time he did certainly not see JANE passing that location, although he clarifies that he was speaking facing JEZ, with his back to the other pathway, where his apartment is situated. He also mentions that JEZ never told him that he had seen anyone, given that he was in front.

He then returned to the TAPAS, between 21h10 and 21h15, dinner having gone as normal. As the movement of people at the table was frequent, he does not know if, when he returned, anyone else was absent, namely JANE. At around 21h30 he drew KATE's attention to the fact that it was time for her to go to see the children, MATHEW having immediately volunteered to substitute her, given the fact that she was chatting. Three to four minutes later MATHEW returned, saying only "all is quiet" (SIC), he having entered through the back door, given that he did not have the key and it was usual for them to enter in that way.

When asked at what time he went to check on the children the night Madeleine disappeared, he recalls that this was around 21:04 according to his watch. He remembers that once inside the apartment he was surprised that the door to the children’s room was slightly more open than how he had left it when he and Kate left for dinner. However, it could have been Madeleine who had opened the door after waking and getting up, eventually to go to her parents’ room. On this occasion, the three children were lying in their beds asleep, he is sure of this. Moreover, he says that with respect to Madeleine she was in the same position in which he had left her at the beginning of the night. Madeleine was lying down on her left side, completely uncovered, i.e. lying on top of the covers, with the soft toy and blanket, both pink, next to her head; he does not know if they were in the position that can be seen in the photograph attached to the files




After MATHEW arrived and before KATE left, he does not recall if anyone else was absent, although it was very probable that such had happened. He thinks that, on that night, none of the adults nor children were ill. Asked, he mentions that the daughter of RUSSEL and FIONA would have been ill on Tuesday.

Half and hour later, without anything to remark, it being 22h03, he again alerted KATE that it was time to check the children. She immediately made her way to the apartment by the usual path, having entered through the back door. About 10 minutes later, he started to worry about her taking so long, and, at the moment the deponent prepared to get up and to check why she was taking so long, KATE appeared running, completely distraught and crying, saying that MADELEINE had disappeared and that she was sure because she had looked throughout the entire house.

The deponent ran into the apartment accompanied by the rest of the group who, at the time, were seated at the table. When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open to one side, the shutters almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back, MADELEINE's bed was empty but the twins continued sleeping in their cots. He clarifies that according to what KATE told him, that was the scenario that she found when she entered the apartment.

Then he closed the shutters, made his way to the outside and tried to open them, which he managed to do, much to his surprise given that he thought that that was only possible from the inside. They continued with searches outside, around the various apartment blocks, the deponent having asked MATHEW to go to the secondary reception in order to communicate the fact to the local police, since he had no doubt that his daughter had been abducted. He refutes, peremptorily, the possibility that MADELEINE could have left the apartment by her own means.

The deponent had had the wrong idea that MATHEW had seen the bedroom shutters closed when he was there at 21H30, and therefore he thought the disappearance would have taken place between 21h30 and 22h00, but presently he is fully convinced that the abduction took place during the period of time between his check at 21h05 and MATHEW's visit at 21H30


The second person to go and check on the children should have been Kate, but Matt offered to go as he was going to check on his own daughter. When Matt returned to the restaurant the arguido asked him if all was well; Matt replied that all was quiet. The arguido is not absolutely sure, but he is under the impression that he asked Matt if he entered their apartment, to which Matt replied yes.

He peremptorily denies that anyone in the group mat be directly or indirectly involved in the disappearance of his daughter. He presumes that, when his wife alerted him about her disappearance, all the group members were seated at the table. He mentions that, also during the dinner, none of the members complained about being ill or manifested any strange behaviour; there was a relaxed atmosphere.

Asked, he mentions that on Thursday, 3 May 2007, there was nobody from outside of the group seated at the table, nor does he know any person with the name IRWIN.

 
   
 10pm        They arrived at the Tapas around 20:30, and then went to the apartment every half hour, until they arrived back, at around 23:00, plus or minus 10 minutes. Occasionally one of the others in the group made the check, he does not remember if this happened on the 1st. It is not true that Madeleine had been crying that night for an hour and 15 minutes, because she was not alone all that time.

When asked, he says that on one night, he cannot say which, Madeleine slept in his room and in his bed. He thinks it might have been shortly after their arrival at the apartment. Madeleine came to his room saying that Amelie was crying and she couldn’t sleep. He thinks that he didn’t hear the crying before, and was alerted to this by Madeleine. He does not know if it was him or his wife that comforted Amelie. That night Madeleine slept in his bed.
 
 
 At 10pm, his wife Kate went to check on the children. She went into the apartment through the door using her key and saw right away that the children’s bedroom door was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains drawn open. The side door that opens into the living room, which as said earlier, was never locked, was closed.

Faced with this altered scenario, KATE checked that the twins were in their respective beds, unlike MADELEINE, who had disappeared. After thoroughly searching the apartment, his wife, quite scared and upset, went to the restaurant to alert the deponent and the others about the disappearance. Immediately, the group headed for the club and searched across all the facilities, swimming pool, tennis etc., as well as in the apartment, with the help of Ocean Club employees, while at the same time they contacted the authorities, that would later appear.

The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on, as it seemed a long time and he thought that one of children might have woken up.

He does not remember if he had taken his mobile phone to the restaurant. He is under the impression that he did not take anything with him, except maybe his wallet. He was wearing tennis shoes, blue jeans and a light brown polar top. He does not remember what Kate was wearing that night. The arguido did not take a camera and does not remember if Kate did. He does not remember if anybody in the group took any photograph that night.
     
 11pm    Dinner ended at around 23h00


He cannot say exactly, but he thinks that on Monday or Tuesday MADELEINE had slept for some time in his bedroom, with KATE, as she had told him that one or both twins were crying, making much noise.
    Still on this night, KATE slept in the children's bedroom, in the bed next to the window, because the deponent was snoring.
 
Concerning his wife, he says that on the Wednesday she slept in the children’s room in the bed next to the window. He doesn’t know why, but thinks it could have been because of his snoring. Also on that day, after dinner, he returned to the apartment sooner than Kate.
 

Concerning the bed where his daughter was on the night she disappeared, he says that she slept uncovered, as usual when it was hot, with the bedclothes folded down. Concerning the other bed next to the window in the children's bedroom, he says that it showed no signs that anyone had put their feet on it, namely, dirt or shoe prints.
     
 Midnight            Concerning the half-hourly checking of the children, it had been inspired by the MARK WARNER system called "baby listening", as referred to previously. On the night of the events, he ate fish at dinner, and sausages and potatoes as a starter, drinking white wine. Usually, between 20h30 and the end of dinner, they would drink more or less a bottle of wine per person.

Asked, he says that KATE never told him anything about her having "a bad presentiment" concerning this trip.
     
 1am            It was not until about 01h00 on 4 May 2007 that he learned through RUSSEL that his partner, JANE, at around 21h10, saw a man crossing the top of the road with a child in his arms, that may or may not have been his daughter MADELEINE. Asked, he mentions that he does not recall describing the exact type of pyjamas (colour, designs, etc.) that MADELEINE was wearing at the time she disappeared. The photo of his daughter MADELEINE, after having printed several at the hotel reception, was delivered this police’s agents on location, as well as to other persons who were there.
     
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KATE MCCANN
May 4th http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post410.html#p410

 4th May statement

6th September statement
 SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
 7am When questioned about the apartment’s layout, she said that on the first day the moved the furniture: they moved the two cots out of their bedroom and put them in the other one, where the children were to sleep, after they pushed the two single beds in that bedroom apart. They also pushed the two single beds in their bedroom together. She presumes that the cots, when in their bedroom, were at the beds’ bottom.

She mentions that when she arrived there not two, but three cots, in the same spot, and she believes that one was lent to the Payne family.

She asserts that after the day they arrived, April 28, this was the layout of the furniture and this was not altered during the following days.
      Two early calls on mobile.

Cleaner saw cot in parents bedroom

Cleaner cleaned shutters and made beds so Madeleine's bed shoould have been slept in on Wed night and Thursday. (Photos show very neat)


 she said that the cleaning, which was provided by the resort, took place on Monday and Wednesday. Thus she mentions once more that she never altered the above described disposition, which means it is not true that at any one moment in time a cot was in the deponent’s bedroom and the other one in MADELEINE’S bedroom.
 She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday the 3rd, Madeleine asked the witness why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The witness states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom, nevertheless she found her daughter’s comment strange because it was the first time she had made it.

Regarding the fact that on the next morning, Thursday, during breakfast, Madeleine said to both of them that she had been crying and that nobody had come to her room, she presumes that this crying must have been before she and Gerry returned to the apartment. When she asked Madeleine about this however, the child gave no importance to the matter.

On the 3rd of May they all woke up between 7.30 and 8.00 a.m.; she doesn’t know who woke up first
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 8am
 
 As far as the routines are concerned, the witness refers that on Sunday they went for breakfast at around 7.30/8.30 at the Ocean Club, namely at the resort’s bar which is located at some metres’ distance from the apartment. On the following days, and because the bar was quite far away, they started buying food at the “BATISTA” supermarket, which is located on the same road as the apartment, and they had their first meal of the day at the apartment.
 . .   RAIN NOTENNIS
 They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 a.m. Food was bought by her and GERRY at the “Baptista” supermarket. She refers that the stay included breakfast at the Milénio restaurant, but as it was too far away they’d decided to have breakfast at the apartment. During breakfast the “crying episode”, already described, took place. She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pyjama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it out to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; nevertheless the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.
 
   
 9am  While the children are at the "Kid Club," the witness played tennis with her husband, went for walks, read and practised “Jogging”.
 After breakfast, at around 9/9.30am, the children stayed at the resort’s childcare centre, called the "Kid Club", where they did various activities such as painting, collage etc. They stayed there until around 12.30, constantly supervised by several Ocean Club employees in a ratio of one for each three children. The witness stresses that within the crèche, due to the difference in ages, the twins were in one group and Madeleine in another, with separate activities.
   
 RAIN
NO TENNIS
 
 . After breakfast they got dressed and left the apartment through the main door. All children went walking. The balcony door was closed and locked; she doesn’t know whether the main door was locked or unlocked.

After leaving the apartment they left the twins at the crèche next to the Tapas; at the same time she supposes that Gerry took Madeleine to the crèche next to the 24-hour reception area.

Once the children were delivered, they went to the tennis courts for a scheduled tennis lesson. Kate’s group lesson was at 9:15, Gerry’s an hour later. She doesn’t know what Gerry did during that free hour; she presumes he went to the apartment.
 
   
 10am    Gerry broke them (shutters) and they were repaired on the Monday; the incident would have taken place on Sunday.
 she said that the cleaning, which was provided by the resort, took place on Monday and Wednesday. Thus she mentions once more that she never altered the above described disposition,  The window in the deponent’s bedroom was closed and she knows they use the shutters, even because Gerry broke them and they were repaired on the Monday; the incident would have taken place on Sunday.
(Maintenance report shows they were repaired TUESDAY)
RAIN
NO TENNIS


 
on Wednesday or Thursday, Madeleine and the other children went sailing at the beach, five minutes away from the club, for an hour, in an event that was organised by the resort. The surveillance of this activity and the organisation were done by the club, and the deponent was not present, nor was her husband.

When her lesson ended at 10:15, she went to the recreation area next to the swimming pool to talk to Russell until Gerry’s lesson was over.
 
   
 11am        
 
 
   
 Midday
 
 At 12.30pm, they collected their children and had lunch in their apartment, as it had a kitchen.  
 Afterwards, she is not sure, they went back together to the apartment until close to 12:15 when she went to Madeleine’s crèche to pick her up, together with Fiona Payne. She signed the crèche's register and went to the twins’ crèche with the intention of picking them up, she thinks that she met Gerry there, not knowing if he already had the twins with him. Together with the three children they went to the apartment for lunch, with food bought at the supermarket. This would be around 12:35/12:40. They ate sandwiches, mainly the deponent and Gerry, and the children maybe ate pasta. Lunch lasted around 20 minutes.
 
 
   
 1pm    After lunch, at around 1.30pm, the children spent time near the club's swimming pool, supervised by the parents, for about 45 minutes, where they played, applied sun cream etc.      
 After finishing lunch they stayed for a while at the apartment, then they went to the recreation area next to the pool, as the children were somewhat restless, maybe tired and bored. They remained at this area for about an hour, maybe more
     
 2pm
 
 After this time, they placed the children back at the "Kids Club"    Apart from the Kids Club and the apartment, they only went to the beach with Madeleine and the other children once, and only for a very short period of time, because the weather was unstable, which happened between 1.30 and 3 p.m., when they returned to the club. At the beach, they only ate an ice cream and returned to the apartment.
 then they left the twins at the crèche next to the Tapas and both of them took Madeleine to the other crèche. They went via a path in front of the small reception and then through a garden area and stairs, taking a short cut. This route was indicated to her by Gerry.

After leaving Madeleine at around 2:50 p.m.
 
   
 3pm  After the trip, the meeting point was in Portugal, at the Ocean Club, where the witness's group arrived on Saturday April 28th at around 3pm from Faro airport in an airport mini bus. The other group arrived on the same day, late morning.
     
 After leaving Madeleine at around 2:50 p.m., they both had, once more, a tennis lesson, this time an individual one just for the two of them, so they started playing a few balls at that time, given the fact that the court was empty.

She doesn’t remember if they were already wearing appropriate clothes or if they went to the apartment to change.

 
4pm  SATURDAY SUNDAY  MONDAY  TUESDAY   WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY
 The lesson ended an hour later, at around 4:30 p.m.
     
 5pm    until around 5/5.30pm, the time when the children ate at a bar under the watchful eyes of the parents. After the 5pm dinner, they bathed the children, prepared them for the night and let them play for a while at a playground next to the tennis courts, still and always under parental supervision.    
   Gerry continued playing tennis with a guest called JULIAN who belonged to his tennis group, while she went for a jog along the beach, for around half an hour. During that period she saw the rest of the group, children and grownups; she was disappointed as nobody had told her that they were going to the beach and Madeleine surely would have loved to have gone with them. She cannot confirm whether she went to the apartment between the tennis game and the jog.

When she finished jogging, at around 5:20/5:30 p.m., she went to the Tapas area. Gerry was there, as well as the twins and Madeleine who were having dinner at separate tables. Madeleine had been taken to the area by the nannies. Her parents were required to sign the register when the meal was over, at around 5.30 p.m.. During the meal Kate asked Madeleine if she was sad because the other children in the group had gone to the beach without her; she replied that she wasn’t, but was rather tired. She asked Kate to carry her back to the apartment. Kate agreed, and Gerry led the twins back to the apartment, as well. Tiredness was due to the intense daily activities, not to any sickness.

They arrived at the apartment at around 5:40 p.m., earlier than usual, because Madeleine was tired, their other friends were at the beach


At the apartment they both bathed the children, and close to 6:00 p.m. Gerry went to the tennis courts, right after the children had finished their bath. They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered through the same door.
 
   
 6pm
 
       
 Gerry had an all-male tennis game at 6:00 p.m.

After the children’s bath, already alone, she put pyjamas and nappies on the twins, and gave them each a glass of milk and biscuits. Before bathing the children and because it was early, they had thought of taking them to the recreation area, but then decided against this because of tiredness.

While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. (NOTE: AND a bath at 8.00pm?) After showering, at around 6:30/6:40 p.m. and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the balcony door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who was at the balcony door. This door was closed but not locked as Gerry had left through this door. She saw that it was David Payne, because he called out and had opened the door slightly. David’s visit was to help her to take the children to the recreation area. When David returned from the beach he was with Gerry at the tennis courts, and it was Gerry who asked him to help Kate with taking the children to the recreation area, which had been arranged but did not take place. David was at the apartment for around 30 seconds, he didn’t even actually enter the flat, he remained at the balcony door. According to her he then left for the tennis courts where Gerry was. The time was around 6:30-6:40 p.m.

After David left, Kate dressed and sat with the children, Madeleine on her lap. She was wearing a top, she doesn’t remember what colour it was, a green long-sleeved t-shirt, blue denim trousers. Sports shoes and white socks.

She read a story to the children in the living room, on the sofa in front of the balcony door, identified on the diagram with the letter D.
 
   
 7pm except on Saturday, the day of arrival, when they had dinner at the Milénio restaurant.      On that day, May 1, the children were asleep, as she put them to bed at around 7:15/7:30 and was sure they were sleeping.  
 Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went into the bedroom and were put in their beds at around 7.30.

At 7:00 p.m. Gerry arrived and entered through the balcony door. He sat on the sofa identified with letter E. She doesn’t know if the story was finished, but thinks she was still sitting on the sofa.

She doesn’t remember having changed the layout of the furniture in the living room, the sofas, the table or others. She says that the sofa (letter E) supposedly was against the side window, because she doesn’t remember anyone having gone behind it. She does not know if this window was open or closed, she does not remember it ever being open, or looking through the window.

After Gerry arrived the children went to wash their teeth and she then read them another story, this time all four of them sitting on Madeleine’s bed. She thinks that Gerry entered the room, but does not recall him sitting on the bed. During the story Madeleine was lying on the pillow, but alert and paying attention to the story. Afterwards both twins kissed Madeleine, she thinks that Gerry was in the room, and each one of them, the deponent and Gerry, placed a twin in its cot at the same time, between Madeleine’s bed and the bed under the window. They also kissed Madeleine, who was already lying down. She was under the covers, she thinks, because it was a bit cold. She normally clutched the soft toy and if she wasn’t holding it then it was next to her, on the left. She remained lying down on her left side, with the soft toy and a pink blanket, which she thinks was covering her. The twins were laid down on their backs, covered with open weave blankets. She says that she doesn’t know if the children were in the same positions when they left the apartment.

It was around 7:15 p.m. when they put the children to bed and checked they were sleeping, she is sure of this.

As the children were asleep, she dried her hair and put on make up. Gerry maybe had a shower and they sat on one of the sofas in the living room, she doesn’t know which one. She had a glass of wine, poured by Gerry, and he had wine or beer. The wine was from New Zealand, white.

 
   
 8pm
 
  .At around 8pm, the children were put to bed until the following morning, when the described routine started all over again. 

 
   When asked about the 1st of May 2007, a holiday, she says that on that day they left the apartment around 8:30PM, the same time that was repeated every night

They arrived at the Tapas at around 8:31, taking the direct route, i.e. left by the balcony door, went down to the road and entered the resort’s secondary reception. As they left by the balcony door, this door remained closed but not locked, as this is only possible from the inside. The curtains were closed.

When they arrived at the Tapas, she thinks that nobody from the group was there, but is not sure.




 
 The witness and her husband stayed in the apartment, relaxing, until 8.30pm.

She took a bath,NOTE: She was in a bath towel when David stopped by at approx 6.40)  did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband. Just after 8.30pm, the witness and her husband, after checking on their children, joined the other adults of the group at the "Tapas" restaurant, about 50 metres away, where they had dinner. 


Gerry was wearing blue denim trousers and sports shoes. She doesn’t remember what else he was wearing.

They talked while they drank, until they left for the Tapas restaurant at around 8.30-8.35 p.m. Before leaving they checked on the children, she doesn’t know who; however Gerry says it was him. She only knows the children were quiet. She doesn’t know if they were in their same positions. She says she is sure that they were asleep, because Gerry told her so and all was quiet.

They left through the balcony door, which they left closed but not locked. Main door was closed but not locked. She thinks it could be opened from the inside but not from the outside. She thinks that before she left she put on a cream coloured polar fleece with a zipper, and on top a blue raincoat, also with a zipper. Concerning Gerry, she doesn’t know if he put on any other clothing items.

Concerning objects, she says they took their mobile phones with them, and Gerry might also have taken his wallet with money. Not sure if they took a camera.

Regarding the apartment, and as far as windows are concerned, she said they were closed but she doesn’t know if they were locked. The balcony window was closed but not locked, curtains closed. The second window in the living room was probably closed, she never used it and does not know if the shutters were closed. The kitchen window was probably closed but with the shutters open as there was light in the kitchen.

The window to Madeleine’s bedroom remained closed, but she doesn’t know if it was locked, shutters and curtains drawn, and that was how it remained since the first day, night and day. She never opened it. If somebody saw the window shutters in Madeleine’s room open, it was not the deponent who opened them, and she never saw them open.

The window in the deponent’s bedroom was closed and she knows they use the shutters, even because Gerry broke them and they were repaired on the Monday; the incident would have taken place on Sunday.

When asked, she said that before they left she took some precautions, namely placed the medicine inside a bag with a clasp in her room inside the wardrobe or the dresser. These were Calpol (paracetamol) and Nurofen (ibuprofen), for fevers and pains, both for adults and children (packages in liquid for the children). In this bag there was also a small pair of scissors. In the kitchen were cutting items that were used to prepare the meals and which were not put out of sight. During their trips it was normal for them to take these medicines. During these holidays she never gave any medicine to her children, nor did Gerry. She now says that Gerry also took medicine for acidity called Losec (omeprozole) which they also possessed.

 
Back to the description, the deponent says that on the 3rd they left the apartment leaving the children sleeping. Knowing that Madeleine sometimes woke and got up, she did not worry about leaving her alone, because when this happened, and it wasn’t always, it was around 2 – 3 a.m., at which time they would be back in the apartment already.

They left the apartment between 8:30-8:35 p.m., and headed straight for the Tapas where they arrived 1 minute later maximum. None of the group were at the Tapas because they were usually the first to arrive, but she isn’t sure this was the case every night. There was a couple there who they knew, Steve and Carolyn Carpenter, who belonged to Gerry’s tennis group. They talked with them for a few moments before sitting down. Meanwhile, while they talked to the Carpenters, the rest of their group arrived and sat down at a round table, where they sat every day. Order of arrival: Kate and Gerry first, then Jane, she thinks on her own, then Mathew and Rachel, then Russell, she thinks, and right afterwards David, Fiona and Diane. She makes a sketch of the table and says that both she and Gerry were not facing the apartments. Sketch attached.


 
 
 
   
 9pm
       QUIZ NIGHT

During dinner, every half hour they went to the apartment to check on the children. This was done by the deponent and by Gerry. She does not remember if on this night any of their friends went to the apartment. She states that Russell was not present during dinner, so his wife Jane, or somebody else took his dinner to the apartment. The reason for his absence was that their youngest daughter was sick.
NOTE: Quiz mistress claims she doesn't remember seeing Kate (or David Payne) and Gerry didn't leave the table while she was there from approx 9.00-9.50...20 mins at table - empty setting at table MAY have been ROB's)
 LATE NIGHT AT TAPAS
 
 As usual, every half hour, and given the fact that the restaurant was close, the witness and her husband came to make sure the children were ok. Thus, at around 9pm, her husband went to the apartment to make sure the twins, as well as Madeleine, were in perfect condition, (Translation or an odd expression to use?) then he went back to the restaurant. Her husband told her that the children were well and that he had bumped into the person with whom he had played tennis, who also had two children.

The witness notes that
at the same time, one of their friends, called Russell, went to see his children, too,  (NOTE: not Jane?) nevertheless he did not go to the room where the witness was staying.

At around 9.30pm, at the time when the witness should have gone to see her children, her friend Matt (a member of the group), who was coming to check, as well, went to the apartment where his children were staying and on his way went to the witness’s apartment. He entered the apartment through a glass sliding door at the side that was always unlocked and once inside, he had not gone into the children's bedroom. He remained at the bedroom door, listening for noise and observing the beds. He went back to the restaurant and said that everything was fine.

Dinner began around 9 p.m., and she thinks the nine adults were at the table. She ate steak and maybe sardines. She drank white wine and water.

She doesn’t know if anyone took any photographs that night, however she thinks that Rachel took photos on one of the nights. When asked, she said that Fiona also took some photos but she thinks it was probably on another night. She doesn’t know whether Fiona had a camera with her that night. She remembers hearing a comment that night about a camera being forgotten, but she doesn’t know who said this or who the camera belonged to.

Concerning the checks on the children, she said that Gerry was the first one to check on the children, this was decided on the spot, at around 9-9:05 p.m. He got up from the table and entered the apartment through the balcony door. He came back to the table ten minutes later; he implied that the children were asleep and that he’d met a tennis friend by the name of Jez, with whom he had a chat. During this check, she thinks that Gerry did not check on the children of any other couple, because it was usual just to check on their own children. She never checked on any other child, other than her own.

At 9:30 p.m. she got up to go and check on her children at the same time as Mathew, who said he was going to check on his daughter Grace in apartment 5B, and could check on her children. She hesitated, however he said not to worry as he was going anyway.

After less than ten minutes Mathew returned to the Tapas, saying all was quiet. At that time she did not ask him if he went inside the apartment, however she assumed he had checked on her children, entering through the balcony door which was closed but not locked.

Apart from Matt, she does not remember if anyone else got up from the table.

 
 
 
 
   
 10pm       MRS FENN HEARD CRYING 10.30 - 11.45pm

(NOTE Several calls logged between 10.16 and 10.27pm on Kates phone)

 
When asked, the assistant said that dinner ended at around 11 p.m., and together with Gerry, she left for the apartment.

She thinks they went to the flat four times, one every half hour: Gerry twice and herself twice, at around 9, 9:30, 10, and 10:30 p.m.
 
 At around 10pm, the witness came to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed, but unlocked, as already said, and immediately noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did.

Faced with this altered situation, she verified that the twins were in their beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared. The cover was neatly pulled back and the toys were on the pillow as usual. After searching the whole apartment thoroughly, and already quite scared and unnerved, she returned to the restaurant, and alerted her husband and the rest of the group to the disappearance. The group immediately headed to the club, and set about searching in all the buildings, swimming pool, tennis courts etc... as well as in the apartment with the help of employees. At the same time, they contacted the authorities, which would later arrive.
 
Later, the witness would learn that a member of the group, Russell's partner Jane, at around 9.15pm, when she went to her own apartment to check on her children, saw from behind and at a distance of about 50 metres, on the road along the club, a long-haired person, she thinks wearing jeans, with a child in his arms, walking very quickly. But she is better able to tell about that herself.

At 10 p.m. she got up from the table, as it was her turn after having been replaced by Matt. She entered the apartment by the balcony door which was closed, but as already said, not locked.

At this moment, and because it is late, 11 p.m., the interview was interrupted and will be continued on the next morning.
REST OF STATEMENT?

     
 11pm        
 When asked if she ever slept in Madeleine’s bedroom, she says that such happened on the Wednesday, because she was annoyed with Gerry. He ignored her after dinner when they went to the Tapas bar, which only happened that day. She decided to retaliate by sleeping in the other bedroom, in the bed under the window. She doesn’t know if Gerry noticed this because he was sleeping when she left, and if in fact her husband was aware of this, he made no comment.

Regarding this night she said that none of the children cried, which she would have noticed as she was in the room

.Regarding the fact that on the next morning, Thursday, during breakfast, Madeleine said to both of them that she had been crying and that nobody had come to her room, she presumes that this crying must have been before she and Gerry returned to the apartment. When she asked Madeleine about this however, the child gave no importance to the matter.
       
 Midnight        When asked about the fact her daughter had been crying on Tuesday night for one hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45 p.m., she says that is not true. She says that on that night, after midnight, Madeleine went to their room and said that her sister Amelie was crying, so she stayed to sleep with her and Gerry in their bedroom. She says that before Madeleine appeared in her bedroom, she had already heard Amelie crying, however she did not go to the room, as Madeleine came into the room almost at the same time she heard the crying. She does not remember if afterwards she, or Gerry, went to the children’s room, however she asserts that Amelie cried for a short time.

When asked, she says that on that night the twins slept in the bedroom where Madeleine slept, each in their own cot.
 NOTE: Cleaner saw cot in parents bedroom both Gerry and Kate denied it)

When asked if Madeleine slept in their room, she says yes, as mentioned, on the Tuesday night.
 On that night they also checked on the children every half hour; however she thinks that 45 minutes had gone by from the time of the last check to when they arrived, as exceptionally they went to the Tapas’ bar. On this day she thinks that Gerry arrived at the apartment around 23:50 and she arrived 5 minutes later. She went to sleep in Madeleine’s room 15/20 minutes later. Before this she spent a few minutes in her bed next to Gerry.
       
 1am          T9 stayed late        
 2am          From reading her previous statement, mainly lines 34-40 it can be understood that on the Wednesday night she slept in the couple’s bedroom, but that did not happen since she slept in Madeleine’s room.
NOTE: Did I miss that statement?
       
 3am                  
 4am                  
 5am                  
 6am                  

JANE TANNER
COMPLETED Early Statements May 4th (Teal)  May 10th (Black)
(Rog table incomplete- separate thread in future)

   SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)  THURS as per Rog interview    
 7am  J Wake->                
 8am
 JMillenium
J Apartment->

They caught the plane directly from Gatwick to Faro at 08:30
 Every day they had breakfast at the Millenium
restaurant

 ROB took El to Mini Club and she took Ev.
 Every day they had breakfast at the Millenium
restaurant


 ROB took El to Mini Club and she took Ev.
Every day they had breakfast at the Millenium
restaurant

 ROB took El to Mini Club and she took Ev.
 
 RAIN NOTENNIS
Every day they had breakfast at the Millenium
restaurant


 ROB took El to Mini Club and she took Ev.
 Every day they had breakfast at the Millenium
restaurant

J ROB Kids Millenium

 ROB took El to Mini Club and she took Ev.
 
Yesterday, the interviewee wasn't at breakfast because she had a tennis lesson scheduled for 9am. It was her partner who went with their children after breakfast to fetch **** ****** and drove them all to the "Kids Club."
 j up late no breakfast
 
jROB took E&E to Mill with Matt
   
 9am      Monday 30/4
Met a couple they know from Exeter, who were in the same resort (Praia da Luz or Ocean Club?) who had rented a car. Named as Jim and Charlotte Gorrod and 20 month old child.

 
 RAIN
NO TENNIS
JT May 10
About 2 May, the day before the disappearance of MBM, from memory, at 09h00 the deponent had a tennis lesson with Kate.
Tuesday?
 J Tennis 9
 
JROB drive 3 kids
 
J Kate wait 30 mins for tennis
 
J DW wait 30 mins for tennis
 
**** must have been unwell because she didn't go to the Kids Club that day. Kate Healy and Diane Webster came and waited 30 minutes for the tennis lesson to finish at 9.30am. She did not know where the McCann children had breakfast but they were at the  Kids Club  where she supposed that Gerry, their father, had dropped them off.
 J Tennis with RM
 
j Rob dropped Ella..walked Ev to tennis?
 
jThursday another group of children came down for their tennis
lesson and that’s when Russell and this other person was there with the video camera.conversation with this other person .. because he was taking pictures of his daughter��?/FONT>
 
   
 10am  They arrived at Faro airport at 10:00      
RAIN
NO TENNIS



 j me, Rachael and Kate watched Ella and
Madeleine having their tennis lesson
NOTE: Madeleine' tennis was Tuesday 10.30-11am
Claims 6 children - 7 on Wed
Kids Club (E*** & Madeleine plus 4 other children also had a tennis lesson(berry patel naylor mann totman (5) on wed (4 on Tuesday)
Jane Tanner and Kate watched kids lesson on tennis court, but left before finish
 
<-------------
j Wednesday, when you saw
Madeleine and Ella had her tennis lesson, do you remember if Russell was there
“I don’t remember if he was there, but I don’t think so
JT May 10th
At 10h10 the children at Kids Club, her daughter El (and MBM), a total on six children including them, also had a tennis lesson.
The responsible adults at the time were Cat and Georgina (tennis instructor).
Kate was, together with the deponent, watching the lesson of their respective girls. (WRONG DAY?Tuesday?)
 jKate left tennis
10.10 Gerry tennis
After the lesson, the interviewee and her partner, O'Brien, went with their daughter **** to the beach.
 
The interviewee does not know what Kate did after leaving the tennis court (8) at around 10am, but she knows that Gerald McCann had a tennis lesson (8) between 10.10 and 11.10.
 
 
 
Jane
Russell, me and Evie walked down to the
beach
.I don’t know where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us
 
JANE
Dave and Fi were already down there and, no, we met we met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think they’d had their second sailing lessonthey said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’So then we went down to the beach, erm, and Russell took out a kayak and I sat and just played
 
Ella and Madeleine and the rest of the groupthey were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the Kids Club
 
I’ve got pictures of Ella, of Evie, that’s about the first day I took pictures actually
 

Here Jane contradicts herself and said ROB was watching the tennis on Thursday

JT:
Yeah, it does, but just to clarify though, that on the Wednesday, when you saw
Madeleine and Exxxx had her tennis lesson, do you remember if Russell was there
then?”
Reply “I don’t remember if he was there, but I don’t’ think so”.
4078 “
But on the Thursday he was there”.
Reply “He was definitely there”.
4078 “Watching Madeleine and Exxxx”.
Reply
It was the other, it was other part of the, it was the same age group but it was the
other half of the group that were having their tennis lesson”.



 jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the
beach.I don’t know
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us
 
jDave and Fi were already down there and, no, we
metwe met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think
they’d had their second sailing lessonthey said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’So then we
went down to the beach, erm, and Russell took out a kayak and I sat and just played
   
 11am  The journey was made with her companion and daughters together with the Oldfield couple, Matthew and Rachael, along with their daughter.

As for the Payne and McCann couples, they journeyed by plane from East Midlands to Faro, having arrived around 11h00. They took a taxi from Faro to Luz arriving at 12h00 also on 28 May.
     
 RAIN
NO TENNIS

JT May 10th
The witness left before the class (kids) ended, not recalling if KM left at the same time or later
(WRONG DAY?Tuesday?
JT May 10th
She went to the beach where she met DP and FP
. She and other members of the group made the acquaintance of, in the course of their tennis classes, a lady called O., the deponent's husband, ROB, also knew the lady's husband named Rob from windsurf classes. The couple (Rob and O.) were also guests at the complex. That morning, after having been to her daughter's tennis class, the deponent went to the beach meeting Rob there. From what she knows, the couple Rob and O. have two children (a girl of 3 years and a younger child, not knowing if it was a boy or girl). She thinks they were Londoners. They were "normal" people.

Tuesday?
 
Jane went to beach. Met Paynes. Also met Rob (husband of Ornya) staying at resort
 
Jane went sailing. Russel stayed in apartment as Evie ws feeling sick.
 jGerry 11 left tennis
 jElla and Madeleine and the rest of the groupthey were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the
Kids Club
 
jI’ve got pictures
of Ella, of Evie, that’s about the first day I took pictures actually
 
jThursday was actually probably one of the first nice
daysthe sun had more come out in the day
 
   
 Midday
 J12.30 Kids
J12.30 Kids

As for the Payne and McCann couples, they journeyed by plane from East Midlands to Faro, having arrived around 11h00. They took a taxi from Faro to Luz arriving at 12h00 also on 28 May.
    jRuss took the, took the kayak out for a bit and then came
back and then we just sat, I think we just stayed then on the beach and waited to,
because Ella, and then waited ‘til sort of half twelve to go and pick Ella up for lunch,
erm. So we walked back via the Kids Club and then back up for lunch. And I think
that day was the day we had lunch in our apartment with just Matt and Rachael and not Dave and Fi. I think, I think because they’d done the sailing early



 
JT
The interviewee did not notice if Madeleine was still at the "Kids Club" when they had been to fetch ****. They went to have lunch in their apartment with their two children together with Matthew Oldfield, Rachael Manpilly and their daughter *****. They had lunch from 12.45 to 1.45
 JT May 10th While she was sailing, her husband stayed at home with Ev who was sick
Tuesday?

JT May 10
after the boat trip she was with her husband and girls, all having gone to lunch at the apartment of FP and DP. She is not sure but thinks that MO and RMO also lunched with them in the apartment
Tuesday?

 j lunc apt RM MO and 3 kids
 
They stayed there (beach) until 12.20. Then they had been to fetch **** from the Kids Club
 
The interviewee did not notice if Madeleine was still at the Kids Club when they had been to fetch ****.
 
jRuss took the, took the kayak out for a bit and then came
back and then we just sat, I think we just stayed then on the beach and waited to,
because Ella, and then waited ‘til sort of
half twelve to go and pick Ella up for lunch,
erm. So we walked back via the Kids Club and then back up for lunch. And I think
that day was the day we had lunch in our apartment with just Matt and Rachael
and not Dave and Fi. I think, I think because they’d done the sailing early
   
 1pm          
They went to have lunch in their apartment with their two children together with Matthew Oldfield, Rachael Manpilly and their daughter *****. They had lunch from 12.45 to 1.45  
j1.45 finished lunc
 jbefore Ella went back, Rachael and I just went to have a knock on the tennis court probably about half one    
 2pm
 J 2.30 Kids
J 2.30 Kids
J 2.30 other kids stay
     
After lunch, Russell took E*** to Kids Club, then went for canoeing lesson. Jane stayed in apartment with E***. Then took E*** to play area by pool. 
 
JT May 10 - After lunch, after they took El to Kids Club, ROB went to the beach for a canoe class while she rested in the bedroom with Ev. After her daughter woke up she went with her to the children's play area ("slides") next to the pool.
Tuesday?
 
 

 then, at around 2pm, the interviewee again played tennis (8) but with Rachael Manpilly this time. The interviewee remembers that while she was playing tennis, (8) she saw Kate Healy and Gerald mcCann with their three children in the play area next to the court. Kate waved to her. The mcCann family stayed in that play area until 2.40 (Last Picture)when they drove their children to the Kids Club.
After finishing playing tennis (8) at around 2.45, the interviewee went back to her apartment (1) where she stayed with her daughter ****. Her husband and Matthew Oldfield went sailing.
 
jTennis with RM
 
jSaw K&G with kidsplay area waved.they left at 2.40 drove kids to club
2.45 left tennis..apt look after daughter
 
 j Russ took back, took Ella back to the Kids Cluband Matt was listening for Evie and Grace
 
jI think we played ‘til about, phew, half two
 
jI’m not sure
if this is going
to be another question that you are going to ask, but I think that was
the last time that I saw Madeleine, because Kate and Gerry brought the kids, all the
kids down to the play area to
, they would have their lunch before they took them
back to the Kids Club, and I think that was about two, quarter past two’ish, and I can
remember Madeleine shouting things to us on the tennis court, you know, and I can
remember Gerry sort of going ‘Oh good shot��?or whatever. And I think that would
have been the last time that I personally, you know, I personally saw Madeleine.
Erm, and I think they then left, I say times, I’m not sure, but I know, I think it was
probably, the Kids Club had already gone back in, because I could hear, the Kids
Club was right by the court, so, and I can remember thinking ‘Oh they’ve not gone
straight back in��? Then they took the twins up to the Kids Club and I presume
Madeleine back to the, to the other one, because then Kate and Gerry, I think we saw
them, I can’t remember for exactly, but I think we saw them when we come back,
because they’d booked a, erm, a private tennis lesson, just the two of them, that
   
 3pm          JT May 10 - She doesn't remember, but as GM usually had tennis classes every afternoon, she thinks that he could have been on the court. As for KM, she does not know if she saw her during the afternoon.
Tuesday?
 j MO & ROB sailing
 
j3.45 beach daughter RM FP daughter DW
 
j On way saw K&G having individual tennis lesson..no kids
 jI can’t remember whether we saw them coming back
before me and Rachael finished or whether we saw them doing that when we then
went down to the beach, but I remember seeing Kate and Gerry coming back to have
their, have their private tennis lesson.
j me and Rachael probably knocked
up for about any hour maybe or probably a bit less than an hour, then went back and
then, then Matt and Russ, when we got back, Matt and Russ went down to the beach
and I think they took a boat out, erm, Matt fell off the boat and nearly lost Matt off
the side of the boat
 
j we’d arranged to actually take all the
kids down to the beach with Dave and Fi and Dianne that afternoon, so then when
Evie and Grace woke up, we all well followed and all went down to the beach as a
group, but not with, but Kate and Gerry didn’t come then because they’d booked this
private, you know, this private lesson��?
 
jElla was still in the Kids Club at this point as well��? I’d say three thirty-four

“By the time we’d got everybody, trying to get Dave and Fi anywhere is like trying to
organise an Army, so I imagined it probably went a bit��?
“They’re just always late and faffing, I think Dave’s a faffer so it’s normally, so,
yeah, I think, erm, it was probably three thirty, four��?
4pm  SATURDAY SUNDAY  MONDAY  TUESDAY   WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY
 
At 3.45, the interviewee went to the Praia beach (7) with her daughter, ****, Rachael Manpilly, Diane Webster, Fiona Payne, *** Payne and ***** Payne. Her husband Russell O'Brien was back from his boat trip and he went to fetch **** from the "Kids Club." They joined the group at the beach
 
On the way to the beach, the group of friends mentioned above, saw Gerald McCann and Kate Healy having an individual tennis lesson. The children were not with them.
 
Confirmed that this was the first day they took their children to the beach
     
 5pm        
 WED/Thursd
Teat time for children. Met Kate and Gerry.
Played with adults and children on tennis courts.
Women went to apartment with children. Men played more tennis.

   At around 5.15pm, they saw Kate Healy jogging along the beach.
 
jROB fetch Kids joined at beach ?time..
 
j 5.15 saw K jogging 
 
jROB DP MO left early for tennis
 
Around 17.15 JT saw Kate Healy jogging along beach. Waved back
 j probably on the beach
for an hour. Matt and Russ came out from their sailing
 
jDavid, might have
been down there as well, he might not have come down with us, he might have
already been down there as well but he joined us.
 
j think he was, yeah, I
think he was out on the water as well, so he wouldn’t have walked down with us, we
met him there as well��?
 
j
“He was on the beach with you?��?
“Erm, phew, five minutes��?/FONT>
.
j we played with the kids for probably
about an hour and a half on the beach. And then Russell went to get, pick Ella up and he brought her back down
 
j I think it was about five. It would have been before, because they used to walk
them up for tea, so because we were going to give them all tea on the beach we
didn’t, we made sure it was before they left, but it would have probably have been
about, just before five I think��?
“And how long did it take you to go from the beach to the Kids Club?��?
“No, it was up a hill. Yeah, probably four or five minutes��?
“Okay. Go on then. So Russell goes back to fetch Ella?��?/FONT>
 
jthen we walked up to, I
think it’s Café Paris, Parisio
 
I can’t remember whether I saw them when me and Rachael
went back to the room or whether it was when we took all the kids down to the
beach, we saw them playing tennis, but we’d seen them then. And also I saw, we saw Kate running when we were at the Café Parisio or whatever it was, Kate was running along, we saw Kate running along the beach, so she’d obviously gone for a run. Actually I think that was before, I think that’s, yeah, that’s when we were still
on the beach, so it was before we’d gone to the café that we saw Kate running��?
“Before, yeah. So it would have probably been before five, it would have been sort
of, either before, definitely before half past five I would have said we’d seen her,
   
 6pm had dinner in the complex, making their way to Restaurant Millenium. No-one booked dinner at that restaurant, all, including the children, having gone for dinner around 18h00.
 
       
they went back at around 6.10/6.15.
 
j 6.10/15 left
 
j 6.20 saw all men inc G at tennis..talkked 20-30 mins
 
j6.20K maybe apt
 
Russell O'Brien, Matthew Oldfield and David Payne left the beach (7) a little earlier to go to the tennis court for men's tennis night. When the group came back from the beach (7) at around 6.20pm, they went past the tennis court and they saw all the men, including Gerald McCann, on the court. (8) They stayed to talk to them for around 20 to 30 minutes. Gerald McCann behaved normally. The interviewee supposed that Kate was at the apartment (1) putting the children to bed.
 
Russell O’Brien, Matthew Oldfield and David Payne left beach before others, to play tennis. Gerry McCann would join them. Other adults and children return from beach to the Ocean Club.
18.20 hours chatted with men on tennis court. Presumed Kate Healy was with their children in the apartment.
 
 jThursday night was actually the men’s night of tennis 
 normally it started at half six but we’d asked ‘Could the
social tennis start at six��? so that they then gave us time to get the kids into bed afterwards��?
 
j remember saying to Russell and Matt and everything, it was about quarter past six, I said ‘Oh you’ve got to go to the men’s night tennis because they’ve
changed the times for us and now you’re not blo*dy going��? you know, that sort of, it
was that sort of thing. So I think at about quarter past six they, they all went up to, erm, to the men’s tennis��?

j we followed up probably about quarter of an
hour later with all the kids and we went to the play area by the tennis courts and had
a, you know, we probably stayed there for about half an hour or so
 
jGerry was
there, he was playing, he was playing tennis��?

   
 7pm  The Millenium used to serve dinner on other days (except Saturday) only from 19:30 and, for this reason, they decided to start dining at the Tapas, seeing that, in addition to the above, they would be closer to the apartments. This was discussed at the table in the Millenium on the first night.
       
 j Apt with 2 daughters
 
Around 7pm, they went to their own apartments (1) with the children. The interviewee bathed her two daughters, read them a story to send them to sleep. As **** was unwell and had difficulty going to sleep, she stayed with her father who, meantime, had returned.
 
19.00 hours. Adults and children went to apartments.
JT’s daughter E*** was sick Russell O’ Brien took turns to stay with E***.
j  took the children back and got them, you know, bathed and blah blah and got them ready for bed, but that was
probably, by that stage that was probably, erm, half seven’ish probably I’d say, by the time we, we went back, if not maybe even a bit later, I’m not sure, but around then, around the seven o’clock mark��?

jRussell was still playing tennis she was like
‘Where’s daddy, why is he not putting me to bed��?/FONT>
 
j so they were
probably back about, he was probably back about quarter to eight
   
 8pm
 
Initially reserved at Tapas bar each day, subsequently advised that they would reserve for each night at 20.30.
 At first dinner was booked each day having later been diarised as a permanent booking for 20h30 until the end of the stay At first dinner was booked each day having later been diarised as a permanent booking for 20h30 until the end of the stay.
 
   Asked who has made first booking at Tapas restaurant (May 1st she believes) there were 2 couples possibly English who were at dinner. One of the Mark Warner staff commented that she had never seen them before and they left before the end of the "Quiz" tournament.
 Russell O’Brien went to Tapas for dinner. JT stayed in apartment with E*** who wouldn’t sleep .E*** asleep. JT to Tapas.
All adults at Tapas except Rachel Mampilly, who was feeling unwell. Her husband was at the Tapas. Paynes arrived late, as usual.

 j one child difficulty sleep ROB returned stayed with daughter
j8.30 tapas..several adult members there
 
The interviewee went to dinner at the, Tapas, restaurant at around 8.30pm.
When she arrived at the restaurant, several adult members of the group were already there, without children, who were, in theory, asleep
 

JT’s daughter E*** was sick Russell O’ Brien took turns to stay with E***.
JT went to Tapas restaurant at 20.30 hours
McCanns were there when JT arrived.
j Ella and Evie weren’t in bed at that point, erm, I think they, it was
probably about quarter past eight by the time we actually put them, them in, them
into bed. And then I went down to the restaurant just after half eight
 
jthat stage we knew what the menu was, so I’d got Russell’s
order but he stayed, because the children had only been asleep for quarter of an hour,
he stayed back in the room for a bit longer, just to check that they were definitely
asleep before, before he came, came to join, you know, everybody else��?
 
j Kate and Gerry were there already and they were talking to, I don’t know their
names, but they were talking to the two people that Gerry played tennis with in, erm,
in his group,...Erm, Kate and Gerry were standing up, so they hadn’t sat down at this point
 
jMatt and Rachael came down next together, the two of them, probably a few minutes
after, after me, I don’t think it was that long, that long after me. And then Russell probably about quarter to’ish, I think it was, probably sort of five or ten
minutes after, after me. And then it was getting quite late again and Dave, Fi and
Dianne were nowhere to be seen

j Matt went back, erm, but he actually met them
coming down. But I think because he was up he thought while he was up he’d go
and have a listen just to check, you know, there was no noise from Grace. I think he must have actually been a bit longer, I think we’d actually been there for about quarter of an hour before Dave and Fi, you know, all of us had been there for about ten or fifteen minutes before they actually appeared, so��?
   
 9pm
 
Asked who had made the first booking at Tapas, JT did not know. Also doesn’t know anyone by the name of “Irwin” and no one of this name having dinner with them.
 
Apart from Jane, only Matthew Oldfield was sick and he missed dinner on Sunday.
 
Never went into McCann apartment or apartments of other couples. Only listened from outside, at window
 
 
Remembers only seeing McCanns shutters fully closed.
Jane would not habitually leave her daughters alone, even checking them regularly.
Only agreed as other couples were happy to do it. But always locked doors and closed shutters of her apartment.
As days passed the couples became confident with each other and allowed other parents in the group to check on their children regularly.

         Asked if they had heard if one of McCann twins had cried that night, JT replied “No”. Kate Healy had mentioned the following night at dinner (3/5) that Madeleine had asked her that morning (3/5) why she (Kate) had not come to her room when one of the twins cried.
**NOTE See Thursday May 4 statement
Russell O’Brien arrived at Tapas restaurant as E*** was asleep, this was around 21.00 hours.
The Paynes were late again.

 
 Around 9pm, her husband arrived at the restaurant. He had succeeded in getting **** to sleep. Because of the late arrival of David Payne, Fiona Payne and Diane Webster, the meal booked for 8.30pm, did not start until 9pm, when the Payne family arrived
 
every 15 minutes one person from each apartment went to the respective rooms
j ROB arrived
 
j DP DW FP late meal 9.00
 
j 15 min checks
 
j 9.10 G
 
j9.15 left to check
 
j Saw G & J..G
 been check already 
 
j Saw bundleman
 
jChecked kids returned  G& K at tapas
 
j15-20 mins later ROB &MO left
 
jROB stayed
 
jMO checked the kids saw twins
 
jMO informed ROB staying
 
j Ate quickly returned to replace ROB
 
Matthew Oldfield left the restaurant to chase up with the Paynes. But met on the way at 21.00. Matthew Oldfield took the opportunity to go and check on the children in the apartment.
Gerald McCann got up to check on the children at 21.10.
JT left the restaurant 5 to 10 minutes later to check on her own daughters. On way to the apartment noticed Gerry McCann chatting with J
JT was confronted by information that the police technical team could find no indication that Madeleine had passed the junction where she indicated that a man had been carrying a girl in his arms. JT stood by her original statement. At the time she gave little importance to seeing this therefore common sight at Ocean Club. But she did think it was strange that the child has a blanket/sheet to cover it
she spotted a man who was going along at a fair speed with a child in his arms with the child in pyjamas without a blanket, which attracted her attention.
 
JT took normal route to her apartment all doors to apartment locked.
 
JT returned to Tapas restaurant after checking Gerry McCann already back at table.
around 9.10pm, Gerald McCann left the restaurant
 
Five minutes later the interviewee left, in her turn,
 
 She saw Gerald McCann talking to a British citizen named Jez. They got to know each other during the holiday and played tennis together. She went past them knowing that Gerald McCann had already checked the children in the apartment.
On her arrival at the restaurant (3) Gerald McCann was with his wife Kate Healy.
15 to 20 minutes later, (9.35-9.40?)Matthew Oldfield and her husband, Russell O'Brien, left
As their daughter **** wasn't well, and she was crying,
 
Russell stayed in the room. Matthew checked the children then those of Gerald and Kate. According to him, he saw the twins but he did not succeed in seeing Madeleine. But as he did not hear any noise, he thought everything was OK and went back to the restaurant.
 
Matthew informed the interviewee that Russell was staying in the room. (1)
 
After quickly eating the main course, the worried interviewee went to take her husband's place in the apartment (1) so that the latter could eat. (9.45?)
**During their conversation she did not recall Kate having reported that Madeleine slept badly or that she caused any problems.
After 15 to 20 minutes Russell O’Brien and Matthew Oldfield left table together to check Russell O’Brien found E*** crying and stayed with her. Matthew Oldfield checked on own children and McCanns children. Matthew Oldfield said he saw twins but not Madeleine but didn’t enter the bedroom. Heard nothing and returned to the table. Matthew Oldfield told JT that Russell O’Brien had stayed in apartment.

JT ate quickly left the table and went back to the apartment. Russell O’Brien returned to Tapas restaurant some time later
 
 
11.20 (sic) hours that means that Matthew Oldfield went to check on McCanns, Madeleine was probably not in the bedroom. JT believes Matthew Oldfield did not see this therefore didn’t go fully into the bedroom. Asked why Matthew Oldfield did not do his usual “sound check” from outside the windows of McCanns apartment, JT believes he went into their apartment this time therefore he had assured the McCanns he would check inside this time. In order to do this, Matthew Oldfield went along the pavement outside the building, to the main entrance to the apartment. Went into his apartment, checked, came out, returned along pavement until he came to rear entrance of McCanns apartment, went up their stairs and entered by sliding glass door. But JT insists they ask Matthew Oldfield.
 
 j so it was Kate, me, Rachael I think Dianne was next to Rachael, here. I really can’t, I can’t really, I can’t picture exactly,
but I know, I know I was next to Kate...I think Russell might have been the other
side of Kate or Matt was next��? 

 j I was almost facing the bar area
 
jthere were some people inside because it was quite chilly by, by this, it
was actually quite, quite cold��?
   
 10pm          
 j10/10.15 K & FP shouting
 
While she was in the room, around 10/10.15, she heard Kate Healy and Fiona Payne shouting that Madeleine had disappeared
 
Looked from apartment window to Tapas restaurant and saw that no one from group were there. Was surprised by this, then hears Kate Healy and Fiona Payne in front of apartment calling out for Madeleine. When JT saw Kate Healy she said Madeleine had disappeared. JT stayed in apartment due to E*** being asleep E*** waked but did not go to McCanns apartment.
     
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RUSSEL O"BRIEN
 May 4th statement


May 11th statement


May 15th statement


July 11th
Statement
 SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)  THURS as per Rog interview    
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 Yesterday, as his daughter **** was feeling ill, the informant dropped **** (his other daughter!) at the Kids Club at around 10am after breakfast. He completely corroborates his partner Jane Tanner's statements for the rest of the day.

He also verifies in the total conformity between his declarations and those of Jane Tanner regarding the holiday trip
   
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 The deponent remembers only one episode, that for him did not have any importance, but that, given the circumstances, make him relate it. States that between the activities of tennis and others on the beach, he took notice of an individual who he only knows as NIGEL—a British individual, married, and with a daughter of ¾ years whose name is Ixxx. He had trivial conversations with him. On the day of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, in the late morning, part of the group, with their children, were next to the tennis courts when NIGEL approached him. They were filming his daughter, with a video camera, and that, questioned, the deponent states that he does not remember seeing anyone with such an apparatus. Considering the current particulars of paedophilia, they conversed and the deponent considered this perfectly normal. Nigel had commented that he felt uncomfortable in having his daughter filmed. The deponent finished by concurring with him and together they spoke about the ridiculous situation and “the state to which the world has come”. The deponent states that he has no reason to suspect NIGEL, in any circumstances whatsoever, and that he appeared to him a normal citizen, with a normal family. He never again thought about this conversation and only reports it of all the situations of the week, he has no incident to register or relate.
NOTE: Jane claims they were down at the beach and saw Madeleine an Ella (taking a picture) at sailing, at the same time as the mini tennis referred to here
   
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 At around 7.15/7.30pm, the informant went back to his apartment. He read stories to his daughters, including **** who was feeling better.

Regarding the night period, affirms that, on this day, around 19H15/19H30 he went to his apartment. Told his daughters some stories, having stayed with E**e O’Brien, who was a little better but had a hard time sleeping.
 
   
 8pm
 
 The deponent furthers that the daughters of David and Fiona Payne are very agitated, and that they preferred to be the closest possible to the apartment. All the couples agreed, without objections.
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 His partner, Jane, went to have dinner at the "TAPAS" restaurant at around 8.30pm and he went there at around 8.45pm. When he arrived at the restaurant, nearly all the adults were present, without children, with the exception of David, Fiona and Diane. They arrived more or less 5 minutes later.

Meanwhile, his companion Jane went to dinner in the restaurant—the Tapas—around 20H35/20H40 with the deponent going around 20H45. As the menu was always the same, the group already knew what plates made up the menu, for this reason the deponent told his wife what he wanted, and that she place the order, while he tried to put E**e down.
• When he arrived at the restaurant, all the adults were there, without the children. David and Fiona were missing and Dianne Webster. They arrived more or less 10 minutes after.

 
 
 
   
 9pm
         
 
 At around 9pm, they had all ordered their meals. While they were eating, it was normal that every 15 minutes, one person from each apartment went to make sure the children were ok. Yesterday, as **** was not well, the interval between checks was reduced. He recalls that Matthew Oldfield left the restaurant at shortly after 9pm to check the children. He is no longer sure who went out first, but five minutes later, Gerry McCann and his own partner, Jane, went out, almost at the same time, to check the children. He thinks that Gerry must have gone out first because Jane saw him chatting with a person on holiday at the complex, a certain Jez. He thinks that Jane only checked their apartment, being worried about ****. Then Gerry came back at around 9.25/9.30 and they started to eat the main course.

At around 9.35/9.40, taking advantage of the lull between two courses, the informant left the restaurant with Matthew to check the children. When he got there, his daughter **** was crying. He stayed in her bedroom with her. He supposes that Matthew checked his apartment. Matthew returned to the restaurant five minutes after leaving it. His partner came to take his place in ****'s bedroom around 15 minutes later after finishing dinner.

 At around 9.55, he went back to the restaurant where his food had been waiting for 5 or 10 minutes. All the other adults had finished.

Around 2100 they ordered dinner.
• As was normal, in more or less every 15/30 minutes, one person from each apartment would go to the apartments/rooms to check on the children and if they were well. On that day, as E**e O’Brien was ill, this time was reduced.
• He remembers that Matthew Oldfield left the restaurant, around 21H00, having gone to the apartments to ensure that no noise was coming from within.
• He is not sure who left first. But has the notion that, about five minutes after, Gerry McCann went to check on his children. Around 5 or 10 minutes after Gerry McCann had left, the deponent’s companion, Jane Tanner, also left, to check personally on how her two children were doing. He does remember is Jane or Gerry arrived first but remembers that Jane commented on having passed Gerry on the road, and that he was talking to another guest in the same locale, named Jez.
• Around 21h25, taking advantage of a pause in the service of the first plate, the deponent left the restaurant with Matthew Oldfield to check on the children. He arrived at his apartment and immediately heard his daughter E**e crying and stayed in the apartment. He believes that Matthew Oldfield went to his apartment, and is not aware if he was going to also check on the McCann children and went to the deponent’s apartment and asked him if he needed help.
• Matthew Odlfield returned to the restaurant, having told Jane Tanner that the deponent stayed behind with E**e O’Brien because she was crying.
• The truth is that after the crying, the deponent had to change all the sheets and his daughter’s clothing as she had vomited.
• His companion came to change places with him 15 minutes after and told him to go finish dinner.
• Around 21H55, he returned to the restaurant, having stayed there for 5/10 minutes waiting to be served his plate. At this point, all the others had already finished eating.

 
 
 
   
 10pm          
 At a round 10pm, Kate Healy went out to check her children in her apartment. When she came back, she came towards our table, shouting that Madeleine had disappeared. We all went out, running, and with the help of a few people we decided to search in the area around the apartment blocks. The search proved fruitless.

Around 22H00, Kate Healy left to check on the children in her apartment an returned in desperation, entered the restaurant screaming, in the direction of the table where the group was seated, affirming that Madeleine McCann has disappeared.
• All of them left, except Dianne Webster, and the deponent with some other people decided to start looking around the apartment blocks, and in the apartments, to see if they could find Madeleine.
• In the searches they carried out, after the disappearance, they did not identify any element/person/or suspicious object.
• Because he is asked, states that he cannot describe the state of the children’s room after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, because he never entered there. When they were alerted to the situation, they immediately left the table, and the deponent immediately began searching the immediate areas, heading towards the village and the beach zone.
• Questioned regarding if he noticed whether the blind to the children’s room was up or down, states that he cannot answer because he did not look. He remembers that when he went to check on his children, together with Matthew Oldfield, they were talking and did not look to the windows.
• Questioned whether he knows if Matthew Oldfield went, or not, to check on the McCann children, he states that he does not know as he stayed with his daughter E**e O’Brien in the apartment, but heard, after, a comment that he was supposed to have gone, but that in the checking, he went to the outside of the door to the room, saw the twins, and not Madeleine McCann’s bed, which was situated at an angle which did not give him visual contact.


 
     
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FIONA PAYNE
   SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
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 Concerning what they usually do, the interviewee says that in the morning, after breakfast, which they have as a family in the bar at a club at around 8.15/8.30, they place their children in one of the complex's crèches, in different sections.
 
   
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 They arrived in Portugal on April 28th at around 12 noon, coming from Leicestershire via Faro and finally to Praia da Luz. From Faro to the Ocean Club, they traveled in an airport mini-bus. After checking in, they were placed in apartment G5H with her whole family (Husband, mother and two children).
   
 
 
 
   
 1pm  In the afternoon, their children take a nap, while she and her husband stay in the apartment.        
 
     
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 Yesterday, the usual routine was slightly changed. Yesterday, she went to the beach with her children, her husband and her mother, Diane. They arrived there at around 3.45pm and came back around 6.15pm
 
4pm  SATURDAY

At around 3.30/4pm, the nap over, they all go to the swimming pool or to the tennis courts where the interviewee stays with her children and her husband until 6/7pm.
SUNDAY  MONDAY  TUESDAY   WEDNESDAY
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 Yesterday, the usual routine was slightly changed. Yesterday, she went to the beach with her children, her husband and her mother, Diane. They arrived there at around 3.45pm and came back around 6.15pm
     
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  they all go to the swimming pool or to the tennis courts where the interviewee stays with her children and her husband until 6/7pm.
       
  They arrived there (beach) at around 3.45pm and came back around 6.15pm to go to the tennis courts where they stayed until 7pm.
 
   
 7pm  Then, they go back to the apartment, bathe the children, put them to bed and go to join the rest of the group for the adults' dinner, at the "Tapas," restaurant situated near the club        
.Then the interviewee went to her apartment with her children and her mother. In the apartment, her mother, helped by her husband, gave the children a bath while the interviewee went jogging on the beach until 8pm.
 
   
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 Then she returned to the apartment and did a few household chores and went out at around 8.45pm, accompanied by her mother and her husband to go to the "Tapas," restaurant to join the rest of the group. TheMcCann couple were amongst the members of the group at dinner.
 
 
 
   
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 During dinner, the interviewee and her husband never went to their apartment to check that the children were ok because they would have heard the slightest noise, or any crying in the bedroom thanks to a, "Baby Monitoring," type intercom.        
 
 The interviewee states that Kate and Gerry, as well as other couples, went to the club a few times, at regular intervals, to make sure the children were ok.
 
 
 
 
   
 10pm          
 During one of these checks, Kate came back frightened and very jumpy, panicked even, and she announced that Madeleine had disappeared.

Search groups were immediately organised, in the apartment, thinking that she could be hiding there, then outside, without success, even with the help of employees. Then given Kate's state of anxiety, the interviewee decided to stay with her to lend her support.

The interviewee has never been in Madeleine's family's apartment.

Knowing Madeleine well, the interviewee describes her as very intelligent, and totally incapable of going with a stranger without screaming or protesting strongly unless she was very tired or asleep.

Concerning what Jane said, the latter only

DIANNE WEBSTER
COMPLETED with Early statements May 4th (Orange) May 11th (Black)

 May 4th statement

May 11th statement
 SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
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   she usually took breakfast in their apartment, since the Restaurant "MILLENNIUM" was quite removed from the building in which she was staying.. .   RAIN NOTENNIS
In the morning, she only had breakfast with her family on one day, the
Wednesday, because it was raining. On the other days, she spent the mornings playing tennis.

Still, she explains, on May 2, the eve of disappearance of MADELEINE she had taken her breakfast in the restaurant "MILLENNIUM", since it was raining that day and she did not have an opportunity to partake of the morning sports.
 Concerning May 3, the date of the occurrence of the facts now under investigation, she states that she did the things she has generally described above being unaware of anything, nor having seen anything, that might relate to the disappearance of Madeleine.
 
   
 9am    on the first day it was RUSSEL who had made the reservation at the restaurant, she admits that as possible, although she cannot be sure which of the two (RACHEL or RUSSEL) would have done it.
in the days preceding the disappearance of Madeleine, after breakfast she would play sport (especially tennis),    
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 11am    from memory, the dinners usually ended at around 23:00, the time at which they returned to their apartments where they slept.
   
 
 
   
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 arrived in Portugal on April 28th at around 12.20/12.30 from Leicestershire to Faro and then to Praia da Luz. From Faro to the Ocean Club they used the airport's shuttle service. After checking in, she was placed in apartment G5H with her family

She states that she made her own reservation, only with regard to the plane, via Intemet, unlike the other members of the group, whose reservations had been made through the PAYNE couple.

   Upon return, (Baptiste?) she points out that several families who made up the group met in the PAYNES' apartment to have lunch together, explaining that this was due to the fact that it is the larger apartment.
 
 
 
   
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 usual routines, the deponent states that she only spent the afternoons with her family, and that not always, because she read, she went shopping or did other things.
   After lunch the children took a nap, usually staying in her care, since they [the adults] went with the PAYNEs to continue, together, the leisure activities to which the holidays were dedicated.

Concerning those activities, she clarifies that it was usual to go to the beach, pool and practice several sports monitored by the resort.

 
 
 
   
 3pm      She also went to the beach sometimes, she helped the PAYNE couple to look after the children, during the periods when they were not at the KIDS CLUB.  
 she went to the beach with her granddaughters, her son-in-law and her daughter. They arrived there at around 3.45pm
 
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 5pm      from 16.45 to 17.30, the children had dinner at Restaurant "TAPAS", after which they were taken to the apartment to prepare for sleep,  
  
 
   
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 left (beach) at around 6.15pm to go to the tennis courts where she stayed until 7pm.
 
   
 7pm    they were taken to the apartment to prepare for sleep, which usually occurred at 19:00.    
 she stayed until 7pm. The deponent then went to the apartment with the granddaughters and ten minutes later, her son-in-law, David, joined them. With her son-in-law's help, they bathed the children.


around 19:00 she had gone together with the Payne couple and their children to the apartment in order to prepare them for bed.
 
   
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 After that, the PAYNE family, the deponent included, prepared for the dinner that usually occurred around 20.45 in the restaurant "TAPAS."

In reply to a question, she states that, although it is positioned in front of the balconies at the rear of the residential block, the angle of vision can not permit full control over possible access by people to the interior of ground-floor apartment patios that are there - especially since the restaurant is covered by a transparent oilcloth which hampers vision.
   
 They left the apartment at around 8.45 and accompanied by her son-in-law and her daughter, they went to join the rest of the group at the "TAPAS" restaurant.

The McCann couple were amongst the other friends at dinner.

To our question, the deponent told us she never went to the club to check on the grandchildren because her daughter possessed an intercom on which the children's cries would be heard.

However, she reported that both Gerard and Kate went several times, regularly, just like other couples, to the club to check on their children's wellbeing.
 
 
 
   
 9pm
     Prompted, she explains that in all the dinners during the holidays only members of the group had participated, never having any strangers with them at the table that they usually occupied    
 
 Then, as usual, the adults prepared themselves for dinner. In this matter, she recalled that they had been late with these preparations because they only managed to get to Restaurant around 21.00.

Asked, she adds that she went to the restaurant in the company of her daughter and son-in-law.

Asked directly if someone had gone to her apartment to call them (herself and the PAYNE couple) for dinner the witness said no.

Asked if there was the possibility of having crossed paths with someone during the journey between her apartment and restaurant, the witness said no.

That night she believes she arrived at the restaurant at around 21:00 in the company of the PAYNE couple.

 That, at that time, the whole group were at the restaurant. The witness did not recall, but thinks that perhaps Gerald and MATT had not been in the restaurant along with the other members of the group.

In this regard, asked specifically whether, on the journey to the restaurant, if they had passed either of the two individuals described in the preceding paragraph, she answered categorically not.
 
 Questioned about the members who, during the dinner, had absented themselves from the restaurant, the witness says that, as she recalls, there were some people who left, failing to identify which, except for RUSSEL who had left the restaurant and taken a little more time than usual due to, from what she knows, his daughter had been sick.

Asked, she states that it would be normal for one member of each of the couples to get up regularly in order to check in their apartments if the children were well.

She clarifies that the practice was for each couple to check their own children, it not being usual for anyone to check the children of other couples.

The question asked, she thinks that up to the date of the disappearance it had never happened that anyone had entered the apartment of another couple in order to check their offspring.


the couple PAYNE and the witness, did not make any trips to apartments, because they had an intercom called the "baby monitor", through which sounds or noises of the children could be heard.

Questioned about the members who, during the dinner, had absented themselves from the restaurant, the witness says that, as she recalls, there were some people who left, failing to identify which, except for RUSSEL who had left the restaurant and taken a little more time than usual due to, from what she knows, his daughter had been sick.



Prompted to state for the record the movements that occurred that night, during the above dinner, the witness reiterated that she could not say specifically who had left nor when they had done so
 
   
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 During one of those checks, Kate came back to the restaurant, frightened and nervous, even panicked, saying that Madeleine had disappeared, crying out in terror.

They immediately organised search parties, both in the apartment, thinking that she could be hiding in there, and on the outside. In spite of help from the Ocean Club's employees, the searches were fruitless.

The informant does not know Madeleine well, because she lives a long way from the McCanns, and she cannot say very much about Madeleine's personality. Nevertheless, she reports that Madeleine was calm but active and energetic and good mannered. She was a beautiful and attractive child.

Therefore, she can only say with precision that, at around 22.00 Kate McCann returned to the restaurant, seemingly in panic, communicating to others the fact of Madeleine's disappearance.

Asked about the reaction of other members of the group when they heard the above from KATE, the witness says that everyone, except the witness, left the restaurant and went to the apartment of the couple McCANN in order to find out what was going on.

In turn, as relates to her, the witness says she stayed at the restaurant for about five minutes, then, noting that the remaining members of the group had not returned, she followed in the direction of the McCANNS' apartment.

In that apartment she found that KATE was completely in panic, in "state of shock ".

Because she was asked, she states that she entered the apartment by the sliding glass door of the patio at the back, which gives access to the lounge. (NOTE: It is claimed that no-one entered the apartment initially)


Then she went to the children's bedroom, noting that there she found KATE and the twin siblings of MADELEINE .

She added that she did not remember too much detail about the scenario that she found in that bedroom, other that what she said above. However, she states that KATE had repeatedly commented that, on arriving at the bedroom, she had found the
window of the room, with its shutter, both open. Yet, she [DW] did not notice, upon entering the room, if the window was or was not open.

However, she wants to stress that immediately afterwards, she went outside the apartment in order to ascertain whether she would be able to raise the shutters by hand from the outside, and found it was impossible for her. Consequently she infers that at the time of her arrival at the apartment the window would have been closed already.

Because she was asked, she says she does not know if the window, and the shutter, of the couple's bedroom were open or not, in that she did not enter that room.
 NOTE: It is claimed that it was these shutters that were tried as they face onto the balcony)


Regarding the bedroom previously occupied by Madeleine, she does not remember if the lights were lit, but knows that when she entered the twins were still sleeping in their beds, which makes her think that maybe those lights were switched off. She added that, for her to see the twins and their cradles, and the bed of MADELEINE, the darkness would not be complete, but that the room had some light she thinks must have been from the light of the lounge.

She adds that that night, and after the occurrence of the facts under investigation, she was in the apartment on two separate occasions. At the time described above she remained about 10 minutes in the apartment.

After this time she returned to the restaurant to get her handbag as well as the MCCANN couple's camera and "baby monitor" of her daughter, and was soon back again in the apartment.

The question being asked about the people that were inside the apartment of McCANN at that time, the witness said that the McCANN couple were present (although on the first occasion she had no recollection of having seen GERRY), and FIONA, not remembering any other people that were there. However, she admits the possibility of there being [others] inside the apartment, including David, in that, as mentioned above, all of them had gone to the apartment following the news that KATE had given.

The question asked, she states to know that male members of the group undertook a search around [outside of] the apartment to try to locate Madeleine, which was absolutely fruitless. The deponent states that FIONA had asked her to move to their daughters to make sure that everything would be well with them, hence the deponent will have returned to her apartment from which she did not leave anymore.

     
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DAVID PAYNE

   SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
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 Concerning the remaining members of the group, normally they met them in the morning and went for breakfast together at the "Millennium" restaurant, after which they left their children at the Kids Club and the adults went to do sports inside the tourist complex or they went to the beach. The couple Gerry and Kate usually had breakfast in the apartment.
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 Concerning yesterday evening, he states that he, his wife and his mother-in-law arrived at the restaurant at around 8.55pm. According to what he remembers, when they arrived, all the members of the group were present, apart from the children, who were in bed in their respective rooms.
 
 
 
   
 9pm

In answer to our question, the interviewee doesn't know how many times Madeleine left the tourist complex, but he knows she went, at least once, to the beach.
   the interviewee states that during all the meals, he never went to his apartment or to any of the group's apartments, because he has an "intercom" and the signal carries from the apartment to the restaurant. The other members of the group went, randomly, every 20 minutes, to their apartments to make sure their respective children were asleep.
     
 
 During the evening, Gerry, Jane and Matthew went, alternately, to their children's bedrooms to check if they were sleeping. He thinks they physically went into the apartments. He no longer remembers in what order they went see their children.
 
 
 
 
   
 10pm          
 Towards 10pm, Kate went to her apartment, and less than 5 minutes later, she came back to the restaurant, breaking down, reporting that Madeleine was not in the bedroom.

Then everybody went to the apartment occupied by Madeleine's family. He remembers comments concerning the fact that the window and the shutters to Madeleine's bedroom were open, while they had remained closed throughout the week.

That the apartment occupied by Madeleine's family comprises two bedrooms, a small kitchen, a lounge and a bathroom. That the lounge has a door which gives outside access in the direction of the restaurant. He does not recall any more details of the apartment but he remembers that the bedroom occupied by the children has a window that looks onto the car park that accesses the main road. That he never went into the said bedroom but he could see that there were two beds and two cots. The cots were placed in the middle of the bedroom. One of the beds was placed against the window and the other, the one occupied by Madeleine, was against the wall facing the one which has a window.

 
     
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MATTHEW OLDFIELD
COMPLETED with Early Statements May 4th (BLUE) and May 10th (BLACK)
 MAY 4th Statement

MAY 10th statement
 SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
 7am the days were all the same
 
             
 8am
 
 In the morning, the group woke between 6.30 and 8am and that they all went on foot to the, "Millennium," around 10 minutes from the complex. That only Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment due to the fact that they have three very small children.

generally, they all dedicated themselves to sporting pastimes.


In his particular case, he gave priority to water sports (such as sailing) and, then, tennis.

McCanns never did any water sports.

6.30 and 8am they all went  to the,"Millennium,"  Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment
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. 6.30 and 8am they all went  to the,"Millennium,"  Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment
 RAIN NOTENNIS
6.30 and 8am they all went  to the,"Millennium,"  Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment
 6.30 and 8am they all went  to the,"Millennium,"  Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment

he woke up about 06h30/07h00 going to take breakfast at Millennium at 08h00 with his wife and daughter. He does not recall who [else] was with them. He knows that GM, KM and their children did not breakfast there because they always did that in their apartment.
Regarding the other group members he cannot remember who was in the Millennium that morning. He is sure that he was not accompanied by the whole group given that they were not always accompanied by the same people during this meal – thinking that only DP or ROB would have been there with their respective children.
Adding that as each day passed there were fewer group members who went there for breakfast, opting to have it in their apartments, due to the distance of the restaurant from their residences.

 
   
 9am  he denied the possibility of any of them to have driven periodically any motor car that might have been provided to them by a third party, given that none of them had any friends or acquaintances residing or holidaying in the vicinity.
NOTE: JT Friends? Gorrods?
 the first time thay made a reservation was on Sunday, not knowing who had made it. Asked if it could have been ROB the deponent admitted that that was possible, reiterating to not know for sure who had made it.  relating to the other days, he clarifies that on Monday morning his wife undertook such reservation, adding still that it would have been for all the remaining days except for Friday, 4 May, as there was to have been a Tennis Club dinner that night.

He clarifies that the above reservation was made for nine people for 20h30.

 
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After breakfast he walked to the beach, arriving about 09h30 to go sailing. He knows that on that morning DP and FP were also there, not recalling if he went there with either of those individulas or if they were already there when he arrived. He was sailing until about 11h00 due to which he was late for the tennis class he had booked for that time, together with his wife.
 
   
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He was sailing until about 11h00 due to which he was late for the tennis class he had booked for that time, together with his wife.
(NOTE:TENNIS WITH RACHAEL 11.10 --12.10)
 
   
 Midday
 
 At lunchtime, the habit was to meet up in one of the apartments occupied by the group to have lunch there with the children.

the couples usually ate it as a group in one of the four apartments, adding that the Payne's apartment was commonly used due to its larger size.

 meet up in one of the apartments occupied by the group meet up in one of the apartments occupied by the group meet up in one of the apartments occupied by the group
 meet up in one of the apartments occupied by the group

About 12h10 he went with his wife to pick up his daughter from kids club.


Subsequently the three of them went to the Payne apartment for lunch. He clarifies that he lunched there with the Paynes, their children and mother-in-law, and with ROB and JT. He does not recall if KM and GM were there.

 
 
   
 1pm    In the afternoon, the children have a sleep in their respective apartments under the supervision of an adult. The other adults do sporting activities within the complex. After their afternoon sleep, the children return to the "Kids Club."
children have a sleep in their respective apartments  

adults do sporting activities
children have a sleep in their respective apartments 
 
adults do sporting activities
children have a sleep in their respective apartments  

adults do sporting activities

on one day in the past week during which it rained in PdL (thinking it was 2 May, the day before the disappearance) he went on a 40-minute run on the streets around the resort together with KM.
children have a sleep in their respective apartments  

adults do sporting activities


Later, sometime between 13h30 and 14h00, he and his family went to their apartment to put their daughter down for a sleep,
     
 2pm
 
     
 remaining there until about 14h15/14h30 – the time at which he decided to go to find ROB, he also having returned to his own flat, to call him for them both to go sailing.
 
   
 3pm        
 After their sport (sometime between 15h30 and 15h45) they both went to the beach where they met up with the rest of the group, including children, staying there until about 17h00. He clarifies that GM, KM and their children were not at the beach.
 
4pm  SAT SUN
 around 4.45pm, the children eat at the "Tapas," restaurant
MON
 around 4.45pm, the children eat at the "Tapas," restaurant
TUES 
around 4.45pm, the children eat at the "Tapas," restaurant
 WED
around 4.45pm, the children eat at the "Tapas," restaurant
THUR
 staying there until about 17h00. He clarifies that GM, KM and their children were not at the beach.
     
 5pm    After eating, the children went to play in a playground in the complex, supervised by adults.  After eating, the children went to play in a playground in the complex, supervised by adults.  After eating, the children went to play in a playground in the complex, supervised by adults. After eating, the children went to play in a playground in the complex, supervised by adults.
 Leaving the beach they went to the beach restaurant where they fed the children while the adults limited themselves to a few drinks. 
 
   
 6pm
 
       
 About 18h00 he, ROB and DP went to a social men's tennis match, held in the above resort area, where they remained until about 19h00. He clarifies that when they arrived at that meeting GM was already there, with KM and her children watching the match, the rest of the women and children joining them [KM and children] later.
 
   
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 they remained (tennis) until about 19h00.

At 19h00 (sic?) (8.00?) he, ROB and DP had finished the match, having then gone to their respective apartments in which they found other members of the group.
(NOTE: They left Paraiso about 6.20..15 mins away, DP went to vist Kate, where was the time for a tennis match?)

The deponent said he stayed in his apartment until 19h45 (8.45?) at which time, together with his wife, he went to the Tapas restaurant where GM and KM were already and, from what was said afterwards, Jane. Later, about 20h50, ROB arrived.

 
   
 8pm
 
  on the night of 28 May the group had dined at Millenium as the Tapas was closed.
.around 8pm, the children went to sleep and at around 8.30pm, the adults went to dinner at the "Tapas"
 
 around 8pm, the children went to sleep and at around 8.30pm, the adults went to dinner at the "Tapas"  around 8pm, the children went to sleep and at around 8.30pm, the adults went to dinner at the "Tapas"  around 8pm, the children went to sleep and at around 8.30pm, the adults went to dinner at the "Tapas"
 day yesterday was identical to the previous ones and that, as on all other nights, at around 8.45pm, he and his wife left their daughter asleep in the apartment and went to the "Tapas" restaurant.
Kate and Gerry, Madeleine's parents were already at the restaurant. That they had arrived at the restaurant five minutes before them. The rest of the adults arrived at the restaurant around five minutes after the interviewee and his wife. That the last to arrive at the restaurant was the couple David and Fiona. That the latter arrived at the restaurant at around 9pm.

At 19h00 (sic?) (8.00?) he, ROB and DP had finished the match, having then gone to their respective apartments in which they found other members of the group

The deponent said he stayed in his apartment until 19h45 (8.45?) at which time, together with his wife, he went to the Tapas restaurant where GM and KM were already and, from what was said afterwards, Jane. Later, about 20h50, ROB arrived.
 
 
 
   
 9pm

The interviewee thinks that it is a kidnapping with the intention to demand a ransom from the parents, because these are people who are very comfortable financially.
 it was usual that every 15 minutes (as on all nights) one of the adults went to the apartments to check if the children were sleeping. That normally this checking was done inside the apartments (Visual checking), but that, to be honest, sometimes this checking was only done from the outside, near the bedroom windows (Auditory checking)

As normal, dinner began at 9.30pm.


Asked if there was some agreement about checking all the children of the group he says that it was common practice for one member of each couple to stand up each 15 minutes with the objective to go to check their own child(ren).


that table was positioned the group would have sight of the apartments they were occupying.


Nevertheless, he admits that it was a tenuous sight considering the distance to the apartments (estimated as about 50 to 100 metres), and further, due to their vision being impaired by a transparent oilcloth [tarpaulin] that covered the area in which the tables were located.

Consequently, he admits it being possible for someone to have entered the ground-floor apartments without being detected, through [by way of] the patios that were round the back of the residential block.
 While they were eating, the children were sleeping in their respective apartments without the constant supervision of an adult. The interviewee adds that, as the restaurant is around 1 minute from the apartments, randomly, an adult would be going frequently to check on the children in the apartments.
While they were eating, the children were sleeping in their respective apartments without the constant supervision of an adult. The interviewee adds that, as the restaurant is around 1 minute from the apartments, randomly, an adult would be going frequently to check on the children in the apartments.
 
 While they were eating, the children were sleeping in their respective apartments without the constant supervision of an adult. The interviewee adds that, as the restaurant is around 1 minute from the apartments, randomly, an adult would be going frequently to check on the children in the apartments.
 While they were eating, the children were sleeping in their respective apartments without the constant supervision of an adult. The interviewee adds that, as the restaurant is around 1 minute from the apartments, randomly, an adult would be going frequently to check on the children in the apartments.
 
 around 9.05pm, the interviewee went to the area of the apartments. Notably to the area near the windows of all the children's bedrooms. That he did not hear any noise. That he considered that all the children were sleeping. That all the children's bedroom windows were closed, notably the windows that gave access to the fourth apartment, that occupied by Madeleine. That after this check, he returned to the restaurant, saying that all the children were asleep. However, Gerry, Madeleine's father, went to the area of the apartments to check for himself if the children were asleep. That Gerry allegedly went into his apartment and that he checked to make sure that Madeleine and the twins were sleeping in their bedroom, where it was quite dark. The bedroom door was half-open. That five minutes later, Gerry came back to the group in the restaurant.

 the interviewee does not know if Gerry met anyone while he was checking the children. He did not mention it.

 As normal, dinner began at 9.30pm.

 
around 9.25pm, the interviewee went into his apartment and Madeleine's apartment to check on the children. He states that the door of the fourth apartment (room?), that was occupied by Madeleine and the twins, was half-open and that there was enough light in the bedroom for him to see the twins in their cots. That he couldn't see the bed occupied by Madeleine, but as it was all quiet, he deduced that she was sleeping. That the light in question was from an artificial source but not inside the bedroom, rather from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open.


He states that the bedroom has two windows. The twins occupy two cots placed in the middle of the room and Madeleine occupies a bed pushed against the wall, facing the wall which has the two windows that look out onto the outside of the complex. That the door through which he entered the apartment was closed but not locked. That he doesn't know if it is usual for Madeleine's parents to leave the door closed but not locked because that door is visible from the restaurant.


The deponent added that DP, FP and DW were still not present – and as he could see their apartment lights burning – he resolved to go to them, clarifying that he did not reach that apartment as those people were already on their way to the restaurant. He clarifies [further] that he met them near the living quarters, at the corner next to the main door of the McCann apartment.
(NOTE: DP, FP saw him in different places and DW daid she didnt see him until ROGS after DP and FP reminded her) 

Benefiting from meeting them next to the residences, he adds that, on his own initiative, he made a “listening check” at the bedroom window of MBM and the twins at 21h05. That he limited himself to approach the bedroom window on the outside of the apartment to check if the children were crying or awake.
He adds to have not heard any noise nor perceived anything out of the ordinary. He went on to do the same check at the bedroom windows of his daughter and ROB's daughters.

About 5/10 seconds (minutes?) after the checking he returned to the restaurant seeing that all other group members were already there. They proceeded to order dinner [immediately] after which GM went to his apartment to check his children.

Asked if, at that instant, JT also went to her flat, he says he does not recall, adding that they were gone at the same time as each other.

Nevertheless, he wishes to add that he has no idea about anyone having possibly mentioned the possibility of both having been together.

 
Asked why GM had gone to the apartment at that time if the deponent had been there a few minutes before, he relates that GM might not have heard him say that all was well, adding further that he had not personally checked the children at that time.

Some minutes later, at 21h25, the deponent went to his apartment to do a further check, he having done that together with ROB who intended to do the same with his two girls.


At that time he offered [made himself available] to perform a check in the bedroom of MBM.


Questioned about his motives for such a check, going against the prevailing/established procedure, or – why would two people have gone to check the three apartments (in this case the witness and ROB going to check their own apartments and that of GM), the deponent explained that both [men] had suggested that KM remain in the restaurant [they] assuming the responsibility of verifying the children.



Nonetheless, and the question asked, he relates not being able to state exactly if the suggestion was made by himself or by ROB, adding not being able to clarify why it was done, but, in the case of it having been he [MO] to make such a suggestion it would have been due to, having spent days on holiday together, [there already being] a very close friendship with the couple [allowing him] to enter their apartment.



That, on that occasion, ROB and he went to their own residences, to check on their own children. After leaving his apartment he went to that of ROB who opted to stay there to calm his daughter who was crying, that done with the deponent went alone to the McCann apartment. He clarifies that ROB's daughter was ill, with vomiting.



To this end, he took the quickest route between ROB's apartment and the side garden gate entrance to the rear patio of the McCann residence, to which he gained access through the glass sliding door into the apartment lounge. The door was closed but not locked as KM had said it would be.



That he did not enter the bedroom where MBM and the twins were sleeping. He recalls that the bedroom door was half open, making an angle of 50 degrees. He does not know how far away he was from the bedroom door. He recalls having the perception that the window curtains – green in colour – were drawn closed but could not determine if the window was closed or open. Concerning the external blinds he clarifies that he did not see if it was closed or open. He recalls having thought that in that bedroom there was more brightness than there was in his daughter's room (where the external blinds were always fully closed), adding to have had the feeling that that light was coming from the outside – making the point that both were turned in the same direction.



Consequently, he admits the possibility of the light he was perceiving was owing to the blinds being raised, denying however that he was capable of assessing the height at which it may have been.



The question asked, he was sure that, at the time of his first being in the vicinity of MBM's bedroom, reported as 21h05 in the course of which he had approached the the window of that bedroom from the outside for the purpose of an auditory check, the blinds were, in his view, fully closed.



Consequently, he is convinced that at the time of the second check the blinds were more open than on the first check, given that he considers that the light inside the bedroom, undoubtedly coming from the outside, could not have been coming through it [the blinds] if they had been fully closed.



Following on, convinced that everything was within normality, given that he perceived no noise to make him think otherwise, and further, due to, in his mind, having managed to glimpse the two twins inside their cots, the deponent returned to the restaurant to finish dinner.



Asked, he clarifies to not have seen MBM lying on the bed in the bedroom because from where he was during the check he had no sight of that bed.


The question asked, he relates that he thinks he returned to Tapas between 21h25 and 21h30, telling the others in the group that he found everything within normality in the residential block.

 
   
 10pm  The question asked he says that there had been no change in his sleep [sleeping pattern]. He does not recall bouts of insomnia nor of overly deep sleep.


Questioned about other changes in his health – or of his family – he recalls that the three had had intestinal problems: he on 28 April; from memory, his wife on 30 April or 1 May, and his daughter on 7 May.

Regarding the other group members he does not know if there were changes in their health.

Asked about the drinking of alcoholic beverages by the group members the deponent admits that all the member did (including himself), admitting further that they did in quantities unusually high [for them] in virtue of them fully enjoying the holidays.


Nevertheless he relates that despite what is reported in the preceding paragraph they did not any of their cognitive faculties, adding, by way of example, that they could possibly consume about six bottles of wine.

       
 10pm, Kate, Madeleine's mother, went to her apartment to check on her children. She came back totally shocked, shouting, saying that Madeleine was no longer in her bedroom. At that time all the adults were in the restaurant. Then, the whole group went to Madeleine's bedroom and checked that the twins were sleeping OK. That there was no sign of a burglary in the apartment. Only, one window in the children's bedroom was open. The window and the shutters were open

he clarifies that that news had been communicated to all the friends who were in the Tapas by KM subsequent to her having personally been to her flat to check that her children were well.


The question asked, he relates that she had gone there alone to do that at 21:50.


Noticing the disappearance KM returned in panic to the restaurant where the deponent was in order to tell her husband, GM.


The question asked, he relates being convinced that, at the time of that communication, all the group members were in the restaurant – the reason for which he supposes that ROB had rejoined them in the meantime. 

 In view of such news all group members rushed to GM's apartment which was accessed through the rear entrance, namely by the sliding glass door facing the pool.

Asked, he relates that when he entered the apartment, from memory, he did not approach MBM's bedroom therefore cannot provide any details about its condition.
Asked, the deponent denies that at any time he had perceived any suspicious movements undertaken by unknown individuals (or by group members) to the date of the event or in the days that preceded it.

In the same way he relates never to have perceived suspicious movements undertaken by any motor vehicles in the vicinity of the resort where they were lodged.


by the way, he relates never to have perceived the presence of a blue light motor vehicle in the vicinity of the Ocean Club Garden.


By the way, he denied that at any time did any individuals named IRWIN form part of the table, refuting equally that he had made the acquaintance of anyone so named.


The question asked, he relates that he entered the McCann apartment for the first [and only] time on the night of the disappearance (i.e. 3 May), and [that was] on the second check reported above, namely at 21h25.

     
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RACHAEL MAMPILLY
COMPLETED May 4th (lilac)  may 11th (Purple) May 15th (Black)

 May 4th statement

May 11th statement

May 25th statement
 SAT SUN  MON  TUES  WED   THURS (May 4 /10 interview)      
 7am                
 8am
 
 Questioned, she said that on the day they arrived, her husband MATHEW felt sick with diarrhea and vomiting, a situation that lasted until Sunday morning.
(tapas Sunday night?)
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Furthermore, on Wednesday, in the early morning, she also felt sick with the same symptoms.


RAIN NO TENNIS
 
 After breakfast, taken between 8 and 9 am in the Millennium restaurant, she takes her daughter to the Kids Club, about 10 minutes walk from the apartment. The other couples do exactly the same thing, with the exception of Gerry and Kate McCann who have breakfast in their apartment. The interviewee's daughter goes to a room at the Kids Club which is close to the, "TAPAS," restaurant. Madeleine goes to another room, situated near the club's reception, because she is older.

At 07H50, they went to the restaurant "MILLENNIUM", on foot, arriving by 08.00 to have breakfast. She stated that they had been the first of the group to arrive, and, later, came David and Fiona, and two children, then RUSSEL with his children. JANE did not come because that morning she did not feel well. They took the usual route, alone, having left the apartment by the main door, which was locked, turned right, just after that a left, reaching the main road that led to the said restaurant. They took breakfast together at the same table, including the children


On 3rd May, the day of Madeleine’s disappearance they all (except for the McCanns who stayed in their apartment) has breakfast at the Millenium at 08.00.
 
   
 9am

When asked what the relation between the group was she says that all the men and Fiona are doctors and a friendship had built up between them because at one stage or another, they had worked together. In spite of not living in the same town they would meet up.

Fiona and David Payne are the closest to the McCann family.
   On the morning of the 29th, Sunday, they all went to play tennis except for Matthew because he was ill (vomiting and diarrhoea) and ROB.

The children went to the Club.

 On Monday they were told that there was no room for all of them in the restaurant, but they obtained a special favour from a waiter and all dined together. In order to obtain this favour they said that the children were asleep and that they could not move anywhere else. For this reason, from this day onwards they would reserve a space in the restaurant (for the adults) for the following day.  
 RAIN
NO TENNIS
 
 . When the breakfast was over, by 09H00, the deponent took her daughter to "nursery" next to the "tapas", while her husband MATHEW was with RUSSEL to take his daughter E**a to "nursery" at the main reception. The witness says she returned to her apartment, did some cleaning and changed clothes as she had scheduled a tennis lesson for llH00. At 09H45 she left the apartment and went to the swimming pool area where she read a book and talked with KATE until llH10

Afterwards the witness took G***e to the Club. Madeleine and the twins also went to the Club that morning, as well as the other children in the group.

Matthew and ROB went to the beach. (NOTE: Jane said she went with ROB - ROB said Jane stayed with him and saw mini tennis)

The Payne couple were also at the beach. The witness, after leaving G***e at the club went to the apartment to get ready for tennis. Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner.
 
   
 10am        
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NO TENNIS


 
 Gerry’s tennis session was at 10.00.
 
   
 11am        
 
After dropping her daughter off, the interviewee had a tennis lesson between 11 and 12 o'clock.

went to the swimming pool area where she read a book and talked with KATE until llH10 the time at which she went to the tennis courts since the lesson was delayed slightly. At that time her husband MATHEW arrived also to play tennis until about 12.10 pm.


The witness’s tennis session was at 11 with Matthew after he returned from the beach.
 
   
 Midday
 
 They all lunched in David and Fiona’s apartment. The McCanns lunched in their apartment and then went to meet the others   That, in the the photographs she took during this holiday, there are recorded only the various members of the group. Questioned, she states that during the holiday period she went to lunch at the apartment of David and Fiona, and that MADELEINE entered the apartment of the deponent at some time.
 Then she went back to the Kids Club to pick up her daughter, ******, for lunch. She made ******'s lunch and then they went to Russell O'Brien or David Payne's apartment, where they all ate together. Only Gerry and Kate McCann had lunch in their apartment with the twins and Madeleine. The interviewee has the impression that the McCann family had one lunch on the beach.

After class, they collected [took up] their daughter and went to the apartment of David Payne and FIONA, where thay had lunch all together

After tennis, as usual they went to pick up the children and all had lunch in David and Fiona’s apartment apart from the McCann family.

 
 
   
 1pm          
 At 13h45, the three returned to their apartment, where they put down her daughter who slept for about two hours.

After lunch the children went to sleep. She was not with the McCanns that afternoon until dinner time. She does not know what they did or where they were during that time.
     
 2pm
 They arrived in Portugal on Saturday 28th April, arriving at the OC in the middle of the afternoon. They flew from Gatwick to Faro.

The Payne, McCann families and Diane Webster arrived an hour later by a separate flight (East Midlands – Faro).
 In the afternoon the children slept (except the McCann children) and afterwards they went to the recreation area.    
 The deponent went to play tennis with JANE until 15.00, while her husband MATHEW went to the balcony of RUSSEL to talk, or vice versa, she doesn't know exactly, their apartment being located to the side of his and there is only one other apartment between the two.
 
   
 3pm        
 At 13h45, the three returned to their apartment, where they put down her daughter who slept for about two hours. (until 3.45?)


After the game of tennis, the witness returned home to rest, her husband and RUSSEL having gone to the beach of Luz to sail. At about 15:45, her daughter having woken up, she took her to the beach of Luz in the company of DIANE, Jane, Fiona and their respective children, where they found MATHEW, RUSSEL and DAVTD
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THURSDAY
 They spent most of the time on the beach that afternoon.
     
 5pm    At 17.00 the children went for dinner. Immediately afterwards, the witness, her husband and daughter went to walk on the beach. She thinks that the McCanns remained at the recreation area near to the pool and tennis courts, as did the others.    
 At 17H30 the children dined in one of restaurants by the beach, 

They spent most of the time on the beach that afternoon. They saw Kate running on the beach but she did not stop and they did not speak.

All the children, except the McCann children dined at a beach restaurant at 17.30
 
   
 6pm
 On that evening they all went for dinner at the Millenium restaurant.
       
 By 18:30, the women and children returned from the beach in the direction of the "OCEAN CLUB" with a view to seeing their husbands play tennis, who had returned from the beach about five minutes before. Prior to going to the apartment she was with the children in the playground area, next to the "tapas", until about 19.00.

After the children’s dinner, the men went to play tennis and the women and children watched, once again except for the McCann family (Gerry was playing tennis but she did not see Kate or the children).
 
   
 7pm        
 Then she went to the apartment where she gave her daughter a bath, MATHEW returning at 19.15. The washed and dressed and put their daughter to bed by 19:45


Afterwards they went to bathe the children and put them to bed.
 
   
 8pm
 
  .At about 20.30 when the children has been bathed and were asleep, they all went for dinner at the Tapas Restaurant, near to the pool.
(NOTE: Including Matthew?)
 

On the 29th, 30th, April, 1st, 2nd and 3rd May they always dined at the Tapas restaurant.
     
 The deponent and her husband took a bath, dressed and went to the restaurant "TAPAS" around 20H40. They left by the main door, which they locked, arriving at the "TAPAS" about two minutes later. She emphasized that the back door was closed and properly locked.

When she arrived at the restaurant there was KATE, Gerald and Jane who were talking to another couple who were not part of the group. RUSSEL had not yet arrived because he was singing the daughter to sleep, according to what she was told by JANE.

When they arrived at the restaurant at 20.45 the McCann couple was already there.

They were talking to a couple they knew from tennis, whose name she cannot remember. Jane was also there but she was not talking to them.
 
 
 
   
 9pm

When asked she says that all the couples have been together for various years (between 8 and 12 years). They all have stable relationships. She does not know whether any female or male members of the group have had any other relationships between them, other than the current.

She does not have any knowledge of whether any members has a parallel relationship with any other members of the group.

When asked, she says that there is no friction or conflict between those that make up the group as they are in total harmony as regards the kind of holidays they take, they all have good jobs and identical levels of living as well as having the children in common, whom they all have to look after and they try as hard as possible to do everything together.

She says that in terms of harmony and friendship the group is very close.

When asked about the characteristics of the other couples, she says that they are all persons of normal considered behaviour, and has nothing to point out
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    Concerning the monitoring of the children every half hour, it was inspired by the system that "MARK Warner" has and that it is known as "baby listening" and she had used this service in 2006 when they stayed at a holiday resort in Greece.    They would always begin dinner at 8.30, after the children were asleep. If one of them hadn’t fallen asleep, one member of the couple would stay until the child had fallen asleep and as soon as that happened, would go and join the others.

This happened to ROB on Tuesday evening and he did not manage to have dinner, his partner Jane Tanner brought him his dinner in his room.
On Wednesday evening the witness did not go for dinner because she was feeling ill and spent the day in the apartment. 


 
 
 They had the habit of going to eat every evening at the,"TAPAS," restaurant which is about 50 metres from the apartments as the crow flies but 60 or 70 metres round the building to the back entrance.

Yesterday, at around 8.45pm, like every evening, they joined the rest of the group to eat at the,"tapas," restaurant. Her husband Matthew, went to look for David Payne and Fiona Payne. At around 9pm, the couple arrived two or three minutes after Matthew. He had been to check the children's bedrooms, his own apartment where his daughter was sleeping but also that of the twins and Madeleine. He listened at both closed shutters and didn't hear any noise. He also checked to see if there was any noise in Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner's apartment. He said that he hadn't heard any noise.

After placing their orders, at around 9.15pm, Gerry McCann went to check, only his apartment. He was held up for nearly 10 minutes because, he said, he had been chatting with Jes about tennis. Today there was a tournament which they both had to compete in. During Gerry's absence, the waiters started to bring the food. Jane was also absent to check her apartment. Gerry returned shortly after Jane.

Between the starters and the main course, at around 9.30pm, her husband Matthew Oldfield and Russell O'Brien both went to check on the children. Kate was also planning to go and see the children, but they told her it was no trouble, that they would go and check. Kate, therefore, stayed at the restaurant. Four or five minutes later the interviewee's husband came back after having checked his apartment. He also checked the one where Madeleine was. He went in through the patio door (the couple Gerry and Kate McCann left this door accessible for everyone during dinner) The said patio door gives access to the apartment's lounge where two doors open into the respective bedrooms.

Her husband went into the main room and, "hung about," to listen for any noise from the bedroom where the children were sleeping. He didn't switch any lights on. He could see the twins in their beds. The bedroom door was half-open. It was only later that he realised this was strange. At the time, he gave no importance to the fact. The interviewee's husband came back to the restaurant and said that everything was fine, that he hadn't heard any noise. He also said that Russell O'Brien was staying with his daughter, ****, who was crying.

They had the main course and Jane went off to replace Russell so that he could come and eat. The interviewee does not know exactly when Russell arrived.


 The deponent states that she sat more or less facing the back of the apartment and MATHEW, on the side of the table, you her left. She does not know if, from that position, he could the the back door of the apartment where Madeleine was, it being that, in her case, she could only see the top end/edge.
----- Then RUSSEL arrived and after another 10 minutes, when it would be around 20H55, the PAYNE family - David, Fiona and DIANE - arrived. About a minute before the PAYNEs arrived, her husband MATHEW got up from the table and said he was going to go, taking the opportunity [of the Payne's tardiness?] "to listen" to the children. She states that, according to those what they [the Paynes] told her, MATHEW passed them on his way out. After about 4 minutes, MATHEW returned to the table when they ordered the food, and said he had "listened" to his daughter and to the RUSSEL and MCCANN children, outside the front by putting his head [ear] against the shutters of the windows of their respective bedrooms and that everything was calm with the children. Both ate fish and salad, the deponent drank white wine and MATHEW [drank] red wine, she thought that, at the time, one glass each.
----- By 21.05, GERALD went see his children, and about 10 minutes later JANE left before GM had returned. A few minutes after Jane left GERALD arrived and said he had been talking to "Jez" about tennis, [she] not recalling if he said anything about the children. During this time she affirmed that no one else left the table. Two or three minutes after the arrival of Gerald, Jane arrived, [she] again not recalling whether [Jane] made any comment about her children.
----- At 21H20 they began to dine, and, at 21.30, her husband MATHEW said that he would go to see to his daughter, G***e. The witness offered to go in his place, but he did not accept. RUSSEL also stood up saying that he would also go to see his children. When they were both standing, KATE said the same, namely, that she would also go to see her children. At that point, presumably, she cannot be sure, if her husband MATHEW or RUSSEL volunteered to go to see KATE's children, and she them that they would have to enter by the back door, which was unlocked. RUSSEL and MATHEW left at the same time. About five minutes later, MATHEW returned saying that the children were all well, and that RUSSEL had stayed in the bedroom as one of his daughters was crying.
----- By 21H40/21H45, when they were at dinner, Jane said that he was going to replace RUSSEL so that he could eat, since she had already eaten. About five minutes later RUSSEL returned to the table saying that his daughter E**e was sick and had vomited, [he] starting to dine afterwards.

 
On Thursday evening, for the same reason, ROB went to dinner ten minutes late.

The ritual during dinner was always the same. The Payne family used a walkie talkie to check whether their children woke up. For this reason they never left the table and were calm. This couple when they left, would always lock the windows and doors, in spite of their apartment being on the first floor.

The witness and her husband who were staying on the ground floor (5B) in a space of 20 - 30 minutes would leave the restaurant and go to the apartment, entering by the front door and checking on G***e. They always locked the door and closed the windows.

The ROB and JT couple did exactly the same as the witness. They locked the door and closed the windows.

The McCanns who were staying in 5ª on the ground floor left the patio doors closed but not locked so that every 30 minutes during dinner, one of them would check to see how the children were.

Each couple checked on their own children.



The Payne family and Dianne arrived just after 21.00. Matthew bumped into them as he had gone to the apartment, but he did not enter, he just listened outside to see if there was any noise. He did the same at the Tanner and McCann apartments.

The window shutters of the McCann’s apartments were closed. The patio door that they used to enter the apartment also had its shutter closed. In order to enter they had to raise the shutter.

At about 21.00 they were all seated at the restaurant. At 21.05 Gerry went to check on his children and returned minutes later. Jane also went to heck on her children before returning.


Gerry said that he was chatting to a tennis friend called Jez about the tennis tournament that would take place the following day.

When Jane returned they began to eat dinner.

At about 21.30 Matthew and Russell went to check on their children at the same time. They offered to check on the McCann children. After checking his children Matthew went to see the McCann children. In order to do so he entered via the patio doors. According to what her husband told her the bedroom door was ajar. He did not enter the room and therefore cannot say whether Madeleine was in the room or not. All he could confirm was that nobody was crying and the twins were there. Russell was not with him as he had stayed in his apartment because one of his children was crying.


Matthew returned to the table and said that all was calm, except for Russell’s daughter, which is why ROB stayed with her.

In the meantime they began dinner (at that time they would be eating their starters) and after eating Jane went to Russell to see if he wanted to have dinner. It was about 21.45.

She just says that at about 21.15 when Gerry was talking to Jez, Jane saw a man carrying a child in pyjamas, bare foot crossing road between blocks 5 and 6.

According to Jane she did not see the face of the man carrying the child.

She could only tell what she saw.




 
   
 10pm          
 At around 10pm, Kate McCann went on her own to check her children. She came back to the restaurant in tears and told us that Madeleine had disappeared. We all got up then and went with her to see. The surrounding area was combed after having checked that Madeleine was not hiding in the apartment. The twins carried on sleeping. They didn't move.

 About 21H55/22H00 KATE got up from the table and went alone to her apartment in order to see her children. Five to ten minutes later, she returned the table, crying, visibly shaken, saying that Madeleine had disappeared. Immediately, all of the group, except DIANE, stood up heading for the apartments, and the witness went to see if her daughter was well. Soon after, the men of the group started to do a search around the apartments in an attempt to find the child, at which time the KATE said that the window blinds of MADELEINE's bedroom were open and, as such, she had been taken by someone.
----- The deponent states that she did not enter the bedroom of MADELEINE, thinking that MATHEW her husband also had not done. Then, they extended the search to more distant areas, and her husband headed to the main reception to see if he could find MADELEINE there, since her "nursery" was there, that also being the place he contacted the local police authorities.
----- They continued the search with the help of more people, which resulted in nothing. Further that, about 10 minutes after KATE raised the alarm about the disappearance, the deponent was with JANE in the apartment of the latter. While talking, the JANE told her that when she came to see their children and passed Gerald talking to "Jez", she saw a man with a child, supported in the arms, which would not be a baby and could have been more or less the age of MADELEINE. Also she said that when she saw the man, it seemed strange because he was walking very fast and had a child wearing pyjamas, without any other piece of clothing. That she questioned her [about it], JANE said to the deponent that at the time she had said nothing because she knew nothing of the disappearance of Madeleine and she had not seen the face of the child. Asked, says that, initially JANE focused more on the description of the man and, only a few days later, did she make reference to the clothes that the child would have worn, which would be pyjamas, not recalling if [when] she made a comprehensive description of clothing, especially at the color or design.


Questioned, she said that on Thursday, 03/05/2007, there was no body sitting at the table, strange to the group, and she does not know anyone with the name "IRWIN."

While Russell was having dinner, Kate went to see the children. Minutes later at about 22.00 she returned to the restaurant in complete panic, saying that Madeleine had disappeared.
     
 11pm            She says that the first time she saw the suspect Robert Murat was on the night of 3rd May shortly after they had discovered Madeleine was missing. She saw him for the first time at about 23.30 in the covered area between apartments 5B and D. She thought it very strange as he seemed to be there watching, trying to be the next person to talk to the couples from the group.

That immediately, when the police arrived, he introduced himself to elements of the group, namely Russell, accompanied by the GNR, translating all the initial contacts between the group and the police.

When asked, she says that she does not know whether he entered the McCanns apartment with the police.

As regards the other people searching for the girl outside the apartment he tried to contact them directly, saying that he had a daughter of the same age as Madeleine, offering to translate whatever was necessary.

She thought this individual’s behaviour was very strange, given the intensity of his presence. In addition, all the people they contacted that night belonged to the MW resort and he stayed there, in the middle of them, without anyone knowing where he had come from. Because of her profession (personnel recruitment, interviews) she thinks she knows a bit about human behaviour, thinking it rather strange that he introduced himself in such an insistent manner.

She saw that this individual was with the police in the area for some minutes before she lost sight of him. She does not know whether he managed to enter the McCann’s apartment.

She thinks that after this night she only saw him again on Sunday, 6th May in the morning, in the P da L church during mass.

She saw him again on 11th May when he was translating some statements at the PJ in Portimao. She thinks he spoke again and wanted to draw close to her companions with great intensity, wanting to talk about his life, saying that he was carrying out work in a house in the UK, that he had a daughter of the same age as Madeleine, that she was phoning him a lot to ask how he was (which she though strange given the girl’s young age), always showing a familiarity that was out of the ordinary.

She always had the impression that this individual had strange behaviour and that he wanted to impose his presence, trying to take part in everything that was related to Madeleine’s disappearance.

She did not see him again, except for yesterday, when he was shown on various television channels as a suspect in the abduction of Madeleine. She then felt her suspicions about this individual would be confirmed, feeling bad for not having expressed them earlier to others and to the police.

     
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