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From Li's translation of Jornal de Noticias today, viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11925:


I am staggered by this news. It is hugely significant in understanding the degree to which those who are supporting the McCanns would go in seeking to pervert the course of justice.

If I understand the article correctly, Kennedy met with Murat to try to persuade him to come up with an abductor sighting, plying him with promises of engaging top forensic “artists” to help him. Kennedy additionally plied Murat with claims that he could not understand why Murat had been fingered by the Tapas crew. The meeting came to nothing as a result of Murat’s refusal to play along.

So what is going on? Remember that the number one priority of Team McCann is to maintain the pretence of an abduction, to which end ever more fantastic stories were being invented at this time. A Murat sighting would have given them one more “Muratman” to photofit and send out to the world’s press, accompanied by an anguished press conference asking why the PJ were not energetically following up this crucial lead.

But is not Murat an Arguido, and could not his sighting be considered as a lame attempt to deflect attention from himself? Not if – as the story makes clear – Kennedy was hinting that the Tapas accusation was “mistaken”. In other words, it seems Kennedy was offering Murat a deal: Team McCann would lift the cloud of suspicion hanging over him, indeed would come to his defence. Possibly the resources of the McCann lawyers, including Carter-Ruck themselves, would be placed at his disposal. The price for that was for Murat to come up with a sighting.

But just as Kennedy was offering Murat a carrot, so in the background he was wielding a big stick. Remember that Kennedy is also largely funding Metodo 3, the masters of disinformation, and also Clarence Mitchell, responsible for feeding Metodo 3 dirt to the British media. At this time, Murat was the target of vicious smears generated by the above-mentioned parties: Laffin Assasin has pointed out just one example of the media blitz against Murat at Christmas time.

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How interesting that this article - surely generated by the House of Clarrie - should be dated 28th December 2007, and by-lined from Praia da Luz. According to JN, the meeting between Murat and Kennedy "took place in the end of last year at a house of Murat's relatives", in Burgau, not a million miles from Praia da Luz. Either the article appeared in order to soften up Murat before the visit of the "helpful" Mr Kennedy, or was the vengeful reaction of Team McCann to Murat refusing to play ball. In either case, showing Murat what they are capable of doing to their enemies.

Had Murat caved in, facing such media pressure on the one hand and then miraculously offered salvation on the other, how would this have then been played to the public? I can write the script now for the appropriate Clarrie press conference:

“Kate and Gerry have reacted with great interest to the latest witness to come forward with a new sighting of the abductor who took Madeleine. Robert Murat has provided us with a description of man he saw from the window of his mother’s kitchen on the night of the tragic events. This photofit picture, drawn by a renowned FBI artist, shows a dark, swarthy individual carrying a child and closely resembles the description given by other witnesses. We appeal to the Portuguese police to put all the resources at their disposal to find this man, and if necessary, eliminate him from their enquiries. We are concerned that this has not been happening with sufficient vigour.

“Gerry and Kate also wish to make it clear that they do not believe that Robert Murat has anything to do with the disappearance of their daughter. I am able to tell you now, that they have been able to meet Robert at a private location in the UK [Clarrie does not mention, flown to the UK on Kennedy’s private jet], and are satisfied of his innocence. They believe that he – like themselves – are the victims of a mistaken investigation by the Portuguese police, and are appealing to the PJ to lift Robert’s Arguido status. They are anxious that he does not fall victim to the same terrible miscarriage of justice that they are facing, and that the attention of the Portuguese police be directed where it should be - to the search for Madeleine. As of today, Gerry, Kate and Robert stand shoulder-to-shoulder in demanding only one thing: that the Portuguese police redouble their efforts to find this missing child”.

Presto! A new predator sighting with which to browbeat the PJ. Murat on their side, a solid front of arguidos against the bumbling Portuguese police. A credible witness statement from a man hitherto a favourite of the much-hated internet fora. And unsaid successes too: Murat now beholden to Kennedy and the McCanns, and able to be dropped back in it if he stepped out of line.

Luckily it didn’t turn out that way, but it could have, had Kennedy had his way.

Polandguy, have you considered investing some of your admirable energy into discovering where the finance for Emma Loach's production company is coming from?

Kennedy needs scrutinizing....

thanks polandguy.

astonishing indeed - just what is Kennedy up to, and more to the point, why?

there was a suggestion once that Murat acted as a 'spotter' for a paedophile gang

I am wondering if the story was to be that he remembered seeing or talking to someone who might have been part of such a gang, and that is how he came to be implicated?

I wonder too if Kennedy has ever been interviewed by the police

Stranger and stranger - If this is correct why would Kennedy attempt to pervert the course of justice for the K & G?

It can't be to cover himself as his profile in this is too high, he may be acting on behalf of someone else and logically it must be someone more powerful than him?

Yes, your scenario would not surprise me one bit.

This investigation is being undermined by the McCanns ability to get to witnesses or by creating potential new witnesses with inducements. How can this be allowed?

Polandguy:

Absolutely spot on analysis imo

If this is true then it is explosive it puts all the tapas in deep doodoo as one from each family went to portugal to incriminate Murat-I always thought that it was very ,convenient that one from each pair had spotted Robert, from that moment on in typical mafioso style their loyalty was proven and they were tied to team mccann forever. If true-one eye on the libel lawyers- IF IT IS TRUE -then it would also explain why they suddenly backed off Murat- maybe in addition to the threat of legal action Roberts lawyer threatened to make the meeting public if team mccann didnt backoff and leave him and his girlfriend alone -it would be very interesting to know the date of this alleged dinner-it is such a whopping error of judgement I am struggling to believe it-maybe another red herring to make us look foolish

An incredible article, and an excellent piece of analysis from polandguy. If verifiable, it would make a great story in the UK press. Be worth sending it to them perhaps? Gaunt at the Sun seems the most appropriate.

BUMP for polandguy-this is the most important breaking news for weeks IMO

sherlock, according to reports in the Daily Express, Gerry called for people to cease the speculation about Murat's possible guilt on the same day it was announced that Murat had been in contact with Max Clifford.

polandguy, I think you're correct. If this report is correct, it shows how underhanded and unscrupulous at least certain members of Team McCann are.

is it absolutely certain that Brian Kennedy, the double-glazing mogul is no relation to Kate McCann?

This gets more shadier by the minute. A very explosive piece of news there. I wonder if this will be in all the UK Sunday papers tomorrow or just confined to the portuguese papers. The McCanns are getting absolutely desperate now, just how much further are they going to go. They really are getting themselves into a deeper and deeper mess when all they needed to do right at the beginning was tell the truth. It is going to be far worse for them now than it would have been if they had just came clean right from the start.

So, what exactly is Kennedy's motive for trying to interfere in an ongoing investigation into a death (allegedly) of a child?

polandguy,

A very nice piece of work indeed. Regards and respect.

If the part of the article which states Pj were aware and also monitering metodo3 activities is true it would explain why m3 are suddenly less active-the PJ have really had masses to deal with-reminds me of the scattergun approach of oj simpsons lawyers

This is incredible, thanks polandguy.

If they can come up with proof of this - and perhaps they can - it is looking more and more like Murat is a witness for the prosecution and Kennedy burnt his fingers.
Thanks Polandguy and a nice hypothetical article there.

The news was mind blowing and PG's interpretation, I suspect, spot on. What is Kennedy's motivation???

PS We need to read this in British press!

Iam confused polandguy -Li has posted another thread from todays newspaper and there is no mention of this article-are we looking at two different newspapers with virtually the same title where can I find LI ,S translation of this alleged article-are you really our poland guy?

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sherlock, here's the thread.

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Scylla , bless you and thanks -polandguy forgive me I was worried you had been cloned - not that all the talk of trolls has made me paranoid -oh no not me

That's what interests me - What is Kennedy's motivation?

I would imagine he is a cover for someone else, but who?

If I were one of the Tapas 7 I think I'd be in a bit of a state this morning reading this. Wouldn't matter whether I was one of those who attended the 'confrontation' or one of those who stood by.

Truth or not, - regardless of any assurances they may have received I can't see how any of them could really be sure....