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JILL RENWICK was on holiday with them !
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baileyboy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: JILL RENWICK was on holiday with them !Report this post Reply with quote

i always thought she was at home in scotland, but not according to this from reuters on the 4th may

quote - Jill Renwick, a friend on holiday with the family, told BBC television

http://web.archive.org/web/20080105031257/http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL0439120620070504




i also heard on the grapevine that the 3 men in the cctv are mccann,payne and o'brien and o'brien is the smoker
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Blamhappy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

bailey, I don't find the cctv suspicious in itself. I mean, what are the men doing in the cctv? Without knowing the context, it means nothing.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

So jill was there who with?
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thentherewere4



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

You mean this Jill renwick.
From the Guardian;

The McCanns were immediately certain that their daughter had been kidnapped and determined to publicise her disappearance as widely as possible, ensuring that, from the very first moments, the hunt for Madeleine was as much about the media coverage as it was the police investigation. Jill Renwick has known the couple since they all worked together at a Glasgow hospital more than a decade ago. She spoke to Kate at 7am on the morning after Madeleine vanished: "She just said, 'Help me, please help me'. She said, 'We've been searching all night until 4.30am, and then everybody left us'. At that stage there was only one police officer at the door. They didn't know what to do. So I phoned GMTV."

She also phoned the McCanns' wider circle of friends, who mobilised to phone anyone they could think of to beg for help. Renwick's sister called someone she knew in CID, someone had a connection with Des Browne, the defence secretary. One friend lives close to the Newsnight presenter Kirsty Wark, said Renwick: "She knocked on her door and said, 'I know you must think I'm mad but my friend's wee girl is missing, can you do anything to help?' Though they are not friends, Gordon Brown's brother John lives in the same street as Renwick: "I stopped him in the street the day afterwards and said, 'These are my friends. Do you think you could speak to Gordon about it?' And he said of course. I don't know if anything came about that way."
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

This is a revelation!
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Blamhappy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

bailyboy, don't leave! I really want to know what the men were doing in the cctv.

I don't know what to make about this Jill Renwick possibility. At the moment, I'm interested in the cctv.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: JILL RENWICK was on holiday with them !Report this post Reply with quote

[quote="baileyboy"]i always thought she was at home in scotland, but not according to this from reuters on the 4th may

quote - Jill Renwick, a friend on holiday with the family, told BBC television

http://web.archive.org/web/20080105031257/http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL0439120620070504




i also heard on the grapevine that the 3 men in the cctv are mccann,payne and o'brien and o'brien is the smoker[/quote]
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We've all seen "Journo's" and I use that term loosly, make glaring mistakes in this case, this could just be another.
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Blamhappy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Could be, Headless! That's why I want bailey to come back and explain a little.

It's implications of rumours that interest me...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: JILL RENWICK was on holiday with them !Report this post Reply with quote

[quote="headlesshorseman"]
We've all seen "Journo's" and I use that term loosly, make glaring mistakes in this case, this could just be another.[/quote]

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That's true, headless! On the other hand, it could be correct and Jill's presence with the family in PdL has been played down for whatever reason Confused
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thentherewere4



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Jill immediately took the party line it seems she said this on the 4th May:

Jill Renwick, a friend on holiday with the family, told BBC television she was sure Madeleine had been abducted, noting she "couldn't have gone out on her own and the shutters were forced open".
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Blamhappy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

I'm surprised it hasn't come out by now though, Shubob.
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baileyboy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

it could be a mistake but it also says in the times on the 12th may that mrs renwick holidayed with them before in majorca in 2002.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080105031257/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1779638.ece

quote - Mrs Renwick remembers sitting by the pool with Mrs McCann during a holiday in Majorca six or seven years ago and lamenting their mutual inability to have children.


as for the info on the cctv i'm waiting for a bit more info on those grapevine claims but if i get some i will post
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whoknowsthetruth



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Possible confirmation that she was in PDL at the time:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080105031257/http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2093570,00.html

"Jill Renwick has known the couple since they all worked together at a Glasgow hospital more than a decade ago. She spoke to Kate at 7am on the morning after Madeleine vanished: "She just said, 'Help me, please help me'. She said, 'We've been searching all night until 4.30am, and then everybody left us'. At that stage there was only one police officer at the door. They didn't know what to do. So I phoned GMTV.""
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Blamhappy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Thanks, baileyboy. This is very interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Report this post Reply with quote

Jill told The Times 7th May;

But Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV that the McCanns were certain that Madeleine had been abducted.

“They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour and the shutters had been broken open and they had gone into the room and taken Madeleine,” she said. “They went out about 8, went back in at 9, they were fine, went back in at 10 and she was gone.”

Ms Renwick said that it was the McCanns’ first holiday of this sort. “They are very, very anxious parents and very careful, and they chose Mark Warner because it is a family-friendly resort.”
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