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TinLizzy
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Date Posted：04/21/2010 9:21 AMCopy HTML I realise that there are many people who believe it impossible for Madeleine to have died earlier in the week, and they may be correct.
After studying the statements (as much as I could) I see so many discrepancies and curiosities earlier in the week and using the logic that discrepancies may be lies and lies hide the truth....so SOMETHING may have happened that needed covering up.
Those of us that believe the dogs and the police files believe that Madeleine is dead...and of course it was necessary to cover up the truth with the lies, therefore, creating the discrepancies..
KM & FP good friends worked together
DP knew Kate and Gerry through Fiona working with Kate
DP/FP & JT/ROB - best friends saw each other every week (ROB and DP were in same year which is how DP met Jane -Been on holiday together - )
DW had met G&K a few times and at Fionas wedding
FP
“I’m an Anaesthetist, so I, it combines a lot of different skills, we work in obstetrics, on labour ward doing epidurals, doing caesarean sections for women and we work on intensive care unit, in theatres, cover any need for, resuscitation. So, yeah, it’s quite a stressful job and a busy job, I enjoy it”.
JT/RMO Been on holiday with DP/FP and MO/RMO
JT knew K&G from occasional meetings K&G approx 3 times a year...was not impressed with GM as he was more a man's man but became friendly with Kate because of tennis together on holiday
ROB was MO's best man
MO knew Gerry when working together but didnt socialise then met GM &KM again at FP & DP's wedding where they shared an apartment with other couples
FP
Matt and Rachael didn’t know maybe Kate and Gerry quite so well, but, erm, you know, Russ and Jane we’ve known for donkeys years and, you know, Russ used to share a house when Dave and him were Junior Doctors and I lived there as well with another chap GENERAL
Fiona usually spent afternoons in apartment while children slept for couple hours til 3.30
Cant remember if they went to bech and had te t Paraiso n Monday or tuesday
Went running on beach with David most evenings but once before Thursday with Matt
Rachael usually sat by pool while daughter was in creche
every day after that we ate, we all had lunch in erm Dave and Fi’s apartment, erm it was you know, pasta or something for the kids and Diane would make sandwiches for all of us”.
so they’d often you know, take a picnic and go down to the beach erm. I remember one, I think it might have been on the that they came up to Dave and Fi’s after, sort of after lunch but otherwise they did their own thing at lunch time and the rest of us went up to Dave and Fi’s apartment and the kids had lunch there and you know we’d have a bite to eat as well and then we’d take, we’d take G***e down for a sleep and you know, so she was generally sleeping between two and four there, which is a bit later really than she normally does in the UK”.
you had to kind of call them at you know, eight or nine o’clock and say that you wanted a table for that night, erm and because we were a big group of nine, erm I begged and pleaded with them to let us book for the whole week, a table at eight thirty every night, erm”.
00.36.51 1578 “When did you do that”? Reply “Because otherwise”. 1578 “No sorry, when”? Reply “Oh when, that was on the morning, erm because you know otherwise we, it would have just been really difficult to, well have a, have dinner in peace and erm, er you know we couldn’t really have gone anywhere else cos oh yeah, we’d have had, I’d have to take the children or put them, there was a like a crèche you could put them in, in the evening when you went to dinner but you know we were all kind of, you know the kids generally go to bed at seven thirty and they’re tired out, they need to sleep but if they went somewhere else, they wouldn’t have slept and erm, and you would have been up late, so we didn’t want to do that and you know the Tapas was there and you know the apartment, you know we could see the apartments just there, you know it was only sort of you know, birds eye view was only sort of you know, thirty metres or something like that, so erm and you know, and we kept going and checking, so that seemed like kind of a good option”. 1578 “So there was this rigorous checking procedure”? Reply “Yes, yeah every night”. 1578 “, Tuesday, Wednesday evening”? Reply “Mmm yeah”. 1578 “And of course Thursday evening”? Reply “Mmm yeah”. SATURDAY
The Paynes and McCanns travelled together and arrived an hour or so after ROB/JT and MO/RMO
Charlotte Pennington and Jez Wilkins were on the same flight as ROB and MO and JW recognised JT and RMO at tennis during the week
MW had meeting to show everyone the programs available
Tennis Lessons had a charge
Windsurfing/Sailing n/c
JT (9.15am)- FP - RMO KM (9.15am) GM (10.15am) signed for tennis lessons
DW signed up for tennis lessons 9-10 (held between 9.15 and 10.15 to allow for parents to delier children to childcare)
They all went to Millenium for supper with children
Returned to individual apartments
SUNDAY
K&G had tennis lessons - JEZ played with Gerry but although Kate was there she didn't play...probably because she played the hour earlier.
Everyone went to breakfast
Fátima María Serafim da Silva Espada
Profession: Cleaner 29th April, just before she finished her morning work shift (13.30) as she had the afternoon off that day. At about 13.15 she went to help her mother, who was cleaning apartment I of the same block (5) situated on the first floor. She clearly remembers seeing the girl accompanied by her siblings and mother leave their apartment (5 A) and walk to the stairs leading to the floor above. She was very close to them at a distance of about 1 metre, observing their movements for a few moments because she was charmed by them. led the way with a plate (perhaps plastic) in her hand bearing a piece of bread. As regards the clothes she was wearing she only remembers a skirt but cannot recall its description. She noted, because she thought them nice, the type of shoes she was wearing, tennis shoes, light in colour she thinks, which had little lights along the soles, which lit up each time she stepped on the ground. Her siblings followed behind her, wearing the same king of shoes and each holding a piece of bread in their hands, their mother followed behind them without holding their hands. She seems to remember that the mother was also carrying a plate. Moments afterwards, perhaps the time it took to close the apartment door, the father came out and also headed to the apartment upstairs. When asked, she does not remember whether the father pulled the door closed or locked it with a key.
Louia saw tall man with Madeleine who asked to book tapas for week...
ROB with E**a?
Luisa Ana de Noronha de Azevedo Coutinho
Occupation: ist She remembers that on Sunday 29th April one of the elements of the group arrived with the child Madeleine McCann, she does not know his name and can only say that he was male and tall and thin and that he approached her to request a booking for the whole group, for the whole week and always at 20.30.
Sunday night MO was sick and did not go
ROB claims to have used MO key to check his children
The window in ’s room was closed and she admits they used the blinds, because broke them and they were repaired on the ; the incident occurred on Sunday.
Gerry May 16
MONDAY
No tennis records (Poss womens night)
BREAKFAST - no Dianne or McCanns
FP
Yeah, I’d go back, get Scarlet, Dave would go back and get L*** and we’d meet back at the apartment”.
I’m ninety-nine percent sure, erm, everybody, bar Kate and Gerry and the children, had come for lunch
we didn’t see a lot of Kate and Gerry, I know they, you know, apart from the evenings, they were having a great time with the tennis lessons
RMO
2007-05-15
On they were told that there was no room for all of them in the restaurant, but they obtained a special favour from a waiter and all dined together. In order to obtain this favour they said that the children were asleep and that they could not move anywhere else. For this reason, from this day onwards they would reserve a space in the restaurant (for the adults) for the following day. FP
I think that was a sailing day, erm, so we went along, there was one other chap, I think there was just me, Dave and one other chap for the sailing lesson. So we went straight, straight down to the beach after dropping the kids off. Again, I think we had a full morning, we had a really good, good morning, erm, just pottering about in the, in the boats. And, again, it was pretty cold I think that day and, again, we just had the short wetsuits on, but, erm, and I think we eventually asked to be, to come back in (laughs). Erm, but we would have waited, I think even if we’d come in a bit earlier, we generally waited until it was time to pick the kids up before leaving the beach, we didn’t do anything else with the morning it was all on the beach”.
Marina Paula Raposo Baptista Castela
Date/Time: 2007/05/07 During the stay, as with any other client, the cleaning is carried out on s, Wednesdays and Fridays. (Mara Julia Serafim Da Silva) The collection of rubbish is carried out on Tuesdays and Thursdays Its difficult to make comments about Monday as there is very little information about the day.
We know that the creche records show Kate dropping Madeleine off at 3.15pm then drops the twins off at 3.25pm and picks up Madeleine at 3.30pm. There is no record regarding what time the twins were picked up.
TUESDAY
Kate phone activity May 1st: 10.16.42 (After tennis or in apartment while maintenance fixing blinds or by pool with Rachael?) 11.56.06 12.17.21...Just before she picked up Twins from creche & GM picked Madeleine 19.45.03 20.31.31 20.33.32 20.35.58 20.37.24 22.16.15........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn 22.23.15........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn 22.23.28........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn 22.24.22........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn 22.25.36........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn 22.27.50........Just prior to crying heard by Mrs Fenn WEDNESDAY
KATE: Dial: 02 May 07.36 Amanda Mobile Dial: 02 May 07.36 Amanda Mobile (yes a few seconds after) Rec: 02 May 07.50 Amanda Mobile Rec: 02 May 08.50 ? ---010 Dial: 02 May 08.53 ? ---010 (yes the same number) Rec: 02 May 11.22 ? Rec: 02 May 20.05 ? --624 Rec: 02 May 20,08 ? --624 about eleven I think when maybe they might have gone back to our rooms, back to the apartments”. Dial: 04 May 00.45 Mum&DadTHURSDAY
Dial: 03 May 08.23 ? --624 Rec: 03 May 08.24 ? --624 Rec: 03 May 12.31 Mum mob Dial: 03 May 13.34 Mum mob Rec: 03 May 23.17 Gerry K..Rec: 03 May 23.17 Gerry G..Dial: 00.03 Janet Kenn G..Dial: 00.04 Trish Cameron G..Dial: 00.04 Janet Kenn G..Dial: 00.19 Trish Cameron G..Dial: 00.20 Phil McCann G..Dial: 00.21 John McCann FRIDAY
Dial: 00.03 Janet Kenn (edy?) Dial: 00.04 Trish Cameron Dial: 00.04 Janet Kenn (edy?) Dial: 00.19 Trish Cameron Dial: 00.20 Phil McCann Dial: 00.21 John McCann Dial: 08.48 Angela Morado Rec: 12.08 Private number Rec: 12.55 Kate Rec: 13.42 ? Rec: 13.43 Private number Rec: 13.46 Junior Rec: 14.00 Phil McCann Rec: 14.10 ? Dial: 14.24 Brian Healy Dial: 14.24 ? Rec: 14.35 John McCann KATE: Rec: 04 May 01.02 ? Rec: 04 May 02.39 Lynda and Mark Dial: 04 May 02.27 ? Dial: 04 May 03.09 ? Rec: 04 May 03.29 Jon Dial: 04 May 06.05 Amanda home Rec: 04 May 07.48 ? Dial: 04 May 08.31 Michelle&Jon Dial: 04 May 08.31 Michelle Mob Dial: 04 May 08.45 ? Dial: 04 May 08.52 Jon Mob Rec: 04 May 09.33 Michelle&Jon Dial: 04 May 08.56 Nula Rec: 04 May 09.33 Michelle@Jon Rec: 04 May 09.45 Fiona&Richar Rec: 04 May 10.06 ? Dial: 04 May 10.20 Mum&Dad Dial: 04 May 10.30 Fiona&Richar Rec: 04 May 10.35 Geetisha Mob Rec: 04 May 10.45 ? Rec: 04 May 12.25 ? Rec: 04 May 11.35 Anne&Michael Dial: 04 May 12.16 901 Rec: 04 May 12.25 ? Rec: 04 May 12.37 ? Dial: 04 May 12.57 Gerry |
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