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Comparison ALL Early statements T9
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 7am GERRY May 10 - Asked, he stated that apart from her own apartment, MADELEINE only ever entered DAVID and FIONA’s apartment, although it was common that they frequented each others' apartments.
That, between Monday and Wednesday, not knowing the precise date, when they were leaving the residence through the main door, to place the children in the respective crèches, MADELEINE left running to the left, to the extreme opposite of the residential blocks where they were lodged, playing with the twins. That they walked down next to the most remote end of one of those blocks, not knowing exactly which one, and the three children got into one of the gardens at the back. Then they walked down the inside alley at the back, next to the hedges, up to the street that led to the secondary reception.



               
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 Gerry Sept 7th -He does not know what days were scheduled for cleaning the apartment.

He now states that he also pushed the two single beds in his room together, which had been separated by a night table. He did that to transform the two beds into a double bed.

Regarding the windows, he says they were normally closed, he does not know if they were locked, with the shutters also closed. Regarding Madeleine’s window he says that he made sure the shutters worked so as to darken the room for the children.

On the day of arrival, he does not know if the shutters in Madeleine’s room were open, and if they were, he closed them. He did not open them again, and does not know if somebody else did. When confronted with a testimony that states having seen the shutters to that window open after their arrival, he says that it was not him who opened them.

When asked about the window behind one of the sofas in the living room, he says that yes, he remembers the window but does not remember if the shutters were also closed.

Regarding this sofa, he remembers it was drawn against the window. He is not sure, but thinks that this sofa was probably a bit further away from the window, and he vaguely remembers pushing it back a bit, because his children threw objects behind it, namely playing cards. When asked, he does not know if any of the children was behind the sofa or passed behind this sofa.

 
Kate May 4th -When questioned about the apartment’s layout, she said that on the first day the moved the furniture: they moved the two cots out of their bedroom and put them in the other one, where the children were to sleep, after they pushed the two single beds in that bedroom apart. They also pushed the two single beds in their bedroom together. She presumes that the cots, when in their bedroom, were at the beds’ bottom.

She mentions that when she arrived there not two, but three cots, in the same spot, and she believes that one was lent to the Payne family.

She asserts that after the day they arrived, April 28, this was the layout of the furniture and this was not altered during the following days.


Jane Tanner May 10th - They caught the plane directly from Gatwick to Faro at 08:30
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 11am  Jane Tanner May 10th - The journey was made with her companion and daughters together with the Oldfield couple, Matthew and Rachael, along with their daughter.

As for the Payne and McCann couples, they journeyed by plane from East Midlands to Faro, having arrived around 11h00. They took a taxi from Faro to Luz arriving at 12h00 also on 28 May.
     
 
 
   
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 Gerry May 10th - Concerning the events in Portugal, as already stated in his previous statements, he arrived at Faro airport on 28 April 2007 at around 12h30, having travelled immediately to the OCEAN CLUB in an airport mini-bus where he arrived at around 14h20/14h30.


Jane Tanner May 10th - As for the Payne and McCann couples, they journeyed by plane from East Midlands to Faro, having arrived around 11h00. They took a taxi from Faro to Luz arriving at 12h00 also on 28 May.

Fiona Payne May 4th - They arrived in Portugal on April 28th at around 12 noon, coming from Leicestershire via Faro and finally to Praia da Luz. From Faro to the Ocean Club, they traveled in an airport mini-bus. After checking in, they were placed in apartment G5H with her whole family (Husband, mother and two children).

Dianne Webster May 4th - arrived in Portugal on April 28th at around 12.20/12.30 from Leicestershire to Faro and then to Praia da Luz. From Faro to the Ocean Club they used the airport's shuttle service. After checking in, she was placed in apartment G5H with her family

Dianne Webster May 10th - She states that she made her own reservation, only with regard to the plane, via Intemet, unlike the other members of the group, whose reservations had been made through the PAYNE couple.
   
 
 
 
   
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 Gerry May 4th- The meeting point was the Ocean Club in Portugal. The deponent's group arrived there at 2.30 pm on April 28th from Faro airport on an airport mini bus. The other group arrived the same day at around 1 pm, also using a mini bus.

After checking in, the deponent and his wife, KATE HEALY, their daughter, MADELEINE, and their two year-old twins SEAN and AMELIE, were placed in apartment G5A. The apartment consisted of two beds in one bedroom, and two others in another room, in which were two cots on loan from the resort, in addition to the bathroom a kitchen.

The deponent and his wife slept in one of the bedrooms and in the other, their three children: the twins in cots and MADELEINE in a bed. The other bed remained empty

Gerry Sept 7th - on the day they arrived, April 28, they removed two cots that were in their room, and placed them in Madeleine’s room. He is unable to confirm, but it could be possible, that there were 3 cribs, and they asked for one to be removed.


Rachael Mampilly May 15th - They arrived in Portugal on Saturday 28th April, arriving at the OC in the middle of the afternoon. They flew from Gatwick to Faro.

The Payne, McCann families and Diane Webster arrived an hour later by a separate flight (East Midlands – Faro).

     
 
 
   
 3pm  Gerry May 10th - That, on the first day, given that they arrived at lunch time, they ate only sandwiches both on the plane and on the bus during the journey from the airport to the OCEAN CLUB. After completing the check-in at the main reception, where they were dropped off by the mini-bus, which lasted until 15h00, they went to the apartment where they unpacked their bags, which lasted 16h45. Pointing out that after check-in, the trip with the bags to the apartment was made on a mini-bus that belonged to the resort.


Kate - After the trip, the meeting point was in Portugal, at the Ocean Club, where the witness's group arrived on Saturday April 28th at around 3pm from Faro airport in an airport mini bus. The other group arrived on the same day, late morning.
     
 
 
4pm  Gerry May  10th -  they unpacked their bags, which lasted 16h45 
 
 
     
 5pm  Gerry May 10th - Subsequently, at around 17h00, the whole group, including children, went to the TAPAS restaurant, located at the back of the apartment, next to the pool, to attend a welcoming committee arranged by MARK WARNER, where they met the tennis and sailing instructors, and other resort employees, which ended at around 18h30, several glasses of sangria having been served to them.


That that was the first time they all walked together inside and around the resort. They left by the front door, which he locked with the key, he walked around the existing wall and turned right, going down the resort’s side road up to the secondary reception, where they entered without difficulty , although they had an access card, which was not requested from them and that they had been given during Check-in.

After they passed through the secondary reception, they went to the TAPAS restaurant, next to one of the swimming pools, the adults having sat down in a covered area outside, while the children stayed next to the small pool playing on the playground that was there. That during this time all the adults stood up and went to watch the children near where they were. The deponent and his wife took turns watching
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 Gerry May 10th - attend a welcoming committee arranged by MARK WARNER, where they met the tennis and sailing instructors, and other resort employees, which ended at around 18h30, several glasses of sangria having been served to them.

When the reception committee was over, the nine adults and eight children walked to the MILLENIUM restaurant. They went back to the secondary reception, turned left and, at the top of the road, turned right, then left again, then right again, up to the main street that leads to the restaurant. Because it was a long way, at some point in time the deponent and his wife KATE had to carry the twins in their arms, but not MADELEINE, who was always on foot.



Jane Tanner May 10th - had dinner in the complex, making their way to Restaurant Millenium. No-one booked dinner at that restaurant, all, including the children, having gone for dinner around 18h00.


Matthew Oldfield May 10th - on the night of 28 May the group had dined at Millenium as the Tapas was closed.

Rachael Mampilly - On that evening they all went for dinner at the Millenium restaurant.
       
 
 
   
 7pm Gerry May 10th - They arrived at their destination between 18h50 and 19h00, having sat at a large table where they all had dinner, including the children who were seated among the adults, never leaving the place, except for one of the twins who went to the toilet with the deponent. About an hour later they finished dinner,

Kate - except on Saturday, the day of arrival, when they had dinner at the Milénio restaurant


Jane Tanner May 10th -
The Millenium used to serve dinner on other days (except Saturday) only from 19:30 and, for this reason, they decided to start dining at the Tapas, seeing that, in addition to the above, they would be closer to the apartments. This was discussed at the table in the Millenium on the first night.
       
 
 
   
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 Gerry Sept 7th - About an hour later they finished dinner, and returned, equally walking, by the same route, though going wrong in one of the streets where they should have turned left, ending up only turning only at the next street. He adds that, as they were all very tired they went directly to the apartment, where they arrived at around 20h10/20h15, the route back having been slightly faster given that the twins were carried all the way.


Gerry May 10th -In the apartment, they bathed the children and gave them a glass of milk, putting them to bed at exactly 20h45, he remembers that time because it was exactly one hour later than their usual bedtime. After putting the children to bed, the deponent and his wife took a bath, then settled down in the living room to watch television. He points out that at the moment they arrived at the residence, David Payne invited them to go for a glass of wine after putting down the children, but they turned down the offer as they were extremely tired. He thinks that nobody left their apartments on the first night. Asked, he said that in England, when not on holiday, the deponent and his wife would go to bed at 22h30/23h00, the twins at 19h00 and MADELEINE at 19H30.


Jane Tanner May 10th -Initially reserved at Tapas bar each day, subsequently advised that they would reserve for each night at 20.30.

Jane - At first dinner was booked each day having later been diarised as a permanent booking for 20h30 until the end of the stay

ROB May 11th -  The deponent furthers that the daughters of David and Fiona Payne are very agitated, and that they preferred to be the closest possible to the apartment. All the couples agreed, without objections.

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Asked who had made the first booking at Tapas, JT did not know. Also doesn’t know anyone by the name of “Irwin” and no one of this name having dinner with them.
     
 
 
 
 
 
   
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 7am  Matthew Rogatory - 4078 “Do you remember where you flew from?”
Reply “Erm, we flew from Gatwick. We certainly flew from, Russell and Jane came down with us, erm, and the rest of the group went from, erm, from Leicester, from East Midlands, erm, simply because they didn’t want to come down or get up very early, because MARK WARNER flights are always particularly early, so they’d need to come down and stay overnight and then drive down sort of very early in the morning, so Russell and Jane came to us and then we went down to, erm, to Gatwick from, from, erm, from our house. And there was a bit of a problem with the, with the transport, because we’d booked a taxi and we’d said ‘Look, we’ve got three children, four adults and loads of baggage for a week, it’s got to be big enough’ and he turned up in sort of like a standard and said ‘It’s all fine’, we needed two child seats and a booster seat, and he turned up in sort of like a standard size taxi and then tried to get us into two and we’re going, ‘Oh no, we can’t do that’, so we booked into a sort of a valet parking thing, we’d used before at Gatwick, we drove down there and parked in that, it was all a bit of a sort of a rush at the end but got through”.
4078 “Last minute stress, which you don’t need with little children, I am sure”.
Reply “Yeah”.
               
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 9am  Matthew Rogatory -  And what were your interests, what did you intend to sort of be doing that week?”
Reply “Erm, sailing, for me, because, erm, it’s, it’s a thing I really enjoy but don’t have any opportunity to at home. Erm, I mean, they’re big on, erm, water sports, MARK WARNER, I mean, they do lots of other things as well, football on the beach and all those sort of things, but really, for me it’s, it was an opportunity to sort of get sailing, erm, and tennis, which was the original reason we chose MARK WARNER when we went, because we’d just sort of taken up tennis and wanted to sort of, you know, to be able to play, erm, and so those were the two things that we anticipated doing most of.
     
 
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 10am  Matthew Rogatory - so I just sort of intended to go down and sail at the same time they were having lessons, erm, and then there was, there was tennis as well”.
4078 “Did you play tennis every day?”
Reply “No, erm, no, I think, I think we tried to play tennis, because they two things, they do sort of organised lessons and we signed up for some lessons which got delayed for weather reasons later in the week, I can’t remember if we signed up for those straight away, because we didn’t do a group, we didn’t do a group lesson which we’d done, when did we do a group lesson, I don’t think we did, I think we just did, Rachael and I, erm, with, erm, with an instructor, because I think we felt we’d play sort of socially with everybody else and then we’d have, do some sort of private lessons rather than signing up all week. I’m not sure about that. I don’t remember playing any organised games with anybody else, I think we just had sort of three, sort of two or three, erm, proper tennis lessons”.
4078 “Do you remember when they were?”
Reply “Erm, I know there was one on the last Thursday, because it got moved over from Wednesday, because Wednesday it rained and Thursday was a pretty decent day for weather, erm, so it would probably have been, if I’m thinking it’s three, it would probably have been Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, but I can’t remember”.
     

 
 
 
   
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 Matthew Rogatory -4078 “I know from speaking to Jane yesterday that you and Jane and Russell arrived slightly earlier than the rest of the group, with flight times?”
Reply “We arrived earlier, yeah”.
4078 “So if you can tell me what you remember from when you arrived at the resort?”
Reply “Erm, I mean, we’d sort of came in by (inaudible) and we arrived, we got on the bus, we were allocated rooms on the bus, that’s a question that’s been asked before, so we had the, you know, the choice about where we were going to stay, we’d had the keys with our names on it, erm, we pulled outside the entrance to the Tapas Bar in the bus and MARK WARNER staff sort of met us and took the luggage and helped us get it up to the room, erm, we must have arrived around lunchtime because there was an issue about where are we going to eat, are we going to get food, and I think on that first day we popped down to the Supermarket, there was a Supermarket just down the street, as you may be aware, to just sort of get snacks and things, because I think the Tapas Bar doesn’t open, wasn’t open on that transfer day, so we’d have probably sort of sorted food out and I think we were then unpacking in the rooms when, erm, the rest of the guys arrived and they came in by taxi so they actually pulled into the car park at the back, I remember going out to sort of meet them and say hello to them”.
   
 
 
 
   
 1pm  Rachael Rog - So transfer then from the Airport to the apartments, any issues there at all”?
Reply “No, no, just on the coach, can’t remember if it took, I think maybe an hour sort of thing, erm”.
1578 “And you were with”?
Reply “We were with Russell and Jane”.
1578 “Russell and Jane and their two children”?
Reply “Yes”.
1578 “So there were six adults, three children”?
Reply “Erm four adults, three children”.
00.16.35 1578 “Sorry yes four adults, three children”.
Reply “And erm yeah, just the coach and that was fine, got all the details about the rooms and the keys I think as well (inaudible), I think, we certainly got the number of the apartment, I can’t remember whether the keys were in that envelope as well, or whether we had to kind of go to the Reception and get the key when we arrived, erm yeah, I mean the coach dropped us off at the Reception, erm so we might have actually picked up the key at the Reception but we knew what apartment we were gonna be in while we were on the coach, with all the paperwork that they gave us”.
1578 “In the welcome pack”?
Reply “Yeah, mmm yeah”.
1578 “Okay. So what time would you have arrived at the resort”?
Reply “Erm I think it was early afternoon, perhaps about two-ish, something like that”.
1578 “This is on Saturday”?
Reply “This is on the Saturday”.
1578 “The twenty eighth of April”?
Reply “Yes”.
1578 “Two thousand and seven”?
Reply “Yeah erm”.
       
 
     
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 Rachael Rog -
 So talk us through what you did”?
Reply “Erm we must have had something to eat, we had sandwiches on the plane, erm we arrived, I mean we would have put G***e down for a sleep, erm yeah I mean I can’t remember now whether we did or not but you know she did have a sleep every day, so we would have put her down and it would have been the right sort of time in terms of (inaudible) she normally sleeps from sort of one ‘til three, that would have been about right, got there about two, erm and I think you know, just sort of unpacked in the apartment and sorted ourselves out and then erm,
     
 
 
   
 3pm  Matthew Rogatory _“Right. So where were we. You have arrived and you have settled in your apartment, you think you may have gone to the Supermarket. And do you remember what happened when the rest of the group arrived?”
Reply “Erm, I think, I mean, they would have had to settle into their, and not particularly clearly at this stage, but, I mean, the, that evening, in terms of what was going to happen and where we were going to get food, slightly different, in that, they did an arrival meet and greet at the Millennium Restaurant, which was, erm, slightly distant from the apartment complex, rather than the Tapas, the Tapas was closed for that night and there was also an opportunity to meet sort of the child care people and all of the sort of sports and activities people. So I think, I think at about sort of, erm, I’m not absolutely certain about this, but I think at about four o’clock we also went poolside, four or five o’clock, and that’s where you met the Nannies who’d be looking after, you know, the children the next day, so I think we, you know, you met that time and then it was packing up and going over to, erm, the Millennium Restaurant and having tea and then coming back and putting everybody down”.
     
 
 
4pm  Rachael Rog - then I think Gerry and Kate and Dave and Fi and Diane arrived with all the children maybe about four-ish, cos they’d flown from East Midlands erm and got a taxi from the Airport to Praia Da Luz, erm so I think, I think I remember them arriving perhaps when G***e had just woken up or was about to wake up,
 
 
     
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 Matthew Rog -So we all ate that evening at the Millennium with, erm, with the kids, except, erm, expect I was feeling unwell so I didn’t each much but I was still at the Restaurant that night”.
 

I know we played social tennis with the men in the evening, erm, on that Thursday and we actually, because there weren’t that many people around, erm, and we actually asked them whether they could move the tennis forward so they could go to the social tennis, because it was actually later and it would have gone across bath time so at least half of us wouldn’t have been able to, erm, wouldn’t have been able to go, so they actually moved it forward and I think they moved it to six o’clock from either seven or six thirty, I think we’d asked for it to actually be moved to five thirty but it wasn’t obviously fair on everybody else, in terms of guests, so they didn’t move it completely forward, but they certainly moved it forward by at least half an hour”.
       
 
 
   
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 Matthew Rog -  You said that on Saturday you were feeling a little bit unwell?”
Reply “Saturday I felt unwell, didn’t eat much in the evening, which for a free buffet is pretty unusual for me, and then I started throwing up in the evening and I ascribed it to, when we were on the plane on the way out, they were giving out the meals and, you know, all the kids had been changing seats, so there was, I was sat with, erm, E**a, which is, erm, Russell and Jane’s eldest daughter and maybe E**e on one side and maybe G***e as well, but one of the meals that came round the plastic had already come off and it was in front of E**a and I said ‘You have mine just in case there’s something wrong with it’ and so I blamed that I felt sick that perhaps I was right, it had sort of gone off or something. It may not have been, it may just have been a bug or something, but I usually don’t get diarrhoea and vomiting, I mean, I can’t remember the last time I’ve been sick. Erm, but I started feeling a little bit queasy in the evening and then the, erm, the Saturday evening into the Sunday morning I was actually throwing up, which is just incredibly rare for me.
     
 
 
 
 
 
   
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