[quote="GiveMeSomeTruth"][quote="Galatine"][quote="GiveMeSomeTruth"]There's no evidence to charge them with neglect.
It won't happen - ever.[/quote]
No evidence...other than freely admitting on many occasions that they went out and left three toddlers alone in the dark for hours on end with not a soul looking out for them?
The McConns are to "responsible parenting" what Ghengis Kahn was to pacifism [/quote]
that's an error not neglect. it won't happen.[/quote]
Leaving them once would be an "error", leaving them continuously so they could enjoy a party lifestyle with the friends that they were "so into" (unfortunate choice of phrase if they were not swingers, eh?) IS neglect...especially when gerald McConn feels the need to reinforce the abduction theory by telling us all that it was something him and his wife discussed!
But than god i hav understood the innate rules of parenting and Empathy. Normal reactions to said situations, does not need teaching, it is innate and if it isnt , most social workers would regard that their was a parenting problem.
Three children under 4 years of age were left in an apartment unsupervised or unattended apart from 'brief and frequent visits' from family and friends. One child had/has disappeared that is neglect.
The above is fact, no ifs and buts, therefore the parents are guilty of that.
oldsweat, i agree and the Mccanns should at least admit to doing so, instead of the garbage a Educated Dr and University Graduate comes out with called Gerry.He is far from stupid, knows exactly what he is saying and doing as does his said wife. Manipulation of the Masses, is what is being used here, and im most certain not all will agree with them
My husband used to teach and there were always school trips. We have gone through the different points of view with regard to the neglect issue.
Imagine if Kate and Gerry McCann had been close friends with a couple who had planned to go on holiday to PDL over the same period. Sadly due to a family crisis, the said couple were foced to change their plans. Being a good friend and wanting to help, Kate offered to take the couple's 3 year old on holiday, the little girl being great friends with Madeleine. Same holiday behaviour, same scenario, only the missing child did not belong to the McCanns.
We would have seen distraught parents, wondering how they could have ever trusted Kate and Gerry. We'd have understood that their trust had been bolstered by the fact that the couple were Drs and just like Kate's mother, the friends had not expected the children to be left. Madeleine is being made into an object that belongs to her parents. We are only being told about their plight, that they have suffered enough and to recognise that everyone makes mistakes. If it was someone else's child, we would have to concentrate on the facts. Do we argue that the McCanns would only leave their own children and never take the risk with someone else's child ?
With this case the devil is in the detail, or God, because the truth is hidden there. Facts have to be established about the state of the couple's relationship, the background and behaviours of the whole group and exactly what took place over the holiday, every contact, every conversation had with other guests etc. How can any serious journalist just rubber-stamp every statement, tolerate every discrepancy and lecture the public on being nasty for having doubts. Madeleine has the same rights as every other child, if she had been the daughter of a friend of the McCanns, the couple would be off their tarnished pedestal and it would be accepted that hard questions have to be asked.
To charge the McCanns with neglect, the charge needs to name the children left alone.
If Madeleine is listed as one of the children left alone, and the case is proven in court, that proves Madeleine was alive that night, and was indeed left alone. That could possibly mean that any future case about Madeleine has to be dismissed.
If Madeleine is not listed (because she may not have been alive at that point) the defence will query why the only child alleged to have come to harm is not listed, and thereby make the case look pretty shaky.
[quote="GiveMeSomeTruth"][quote="Galatine"][quote="GiveMeSomeTruth"]There's no evidence to charge them with neglect.
It won't happen - ever.[/quote]
No evidence...other than freely admitting on many occasions that they went out and left three toddlers alone in the dark for hours on end with not a soul looking out for them?
The McConns are to "responsible parenting" what Ghengis Kahn was to pacifism [/quote]
that's an error not neglect. it won't happen.[/quote]
When my eldest was a tiny baby of just a few weeks, I took her with me when I left the house to run some errands. I carefully buckled her into the baby seat in the car and did not take my eyes off her for a second except when driving. It was early February, so I dressed her as one would when planning to take a small child out in winter weather, in a warm bunting.
Trouble was, it was an unseasonably warm day for that time of year, with temperatures much higher than normal. I almost gave the poor little thing heat stroke before I realised what was happening and rushed home to change her.
THAT was an error, born of complete inexperience as a mother. If I had deliberately left her at home alone in an unlocked house three years later so my husband and I could enjoy a quiet dinner at the neighbor's up the street, that would have been neglect. The law recognises the difference.
[quote="justamumof3"]To charge the McCanns with neglect, the charge needs to name the children left alone.
If Madeleine is listed as one of the children left alone, and the case is proven in court, that proves Madeleine was alive that night, and was indeed left alone. That could possibly mean that any future case about Madeleine has to be dismissed.
If Madeleine is not listed (because she may not have been alive at that point) the defence will query why the only child alleged to have come to harm is not listed, and thereby make the case look pretty shaky.[/quote]
I agree.And i have made a thread as to why i think the neglect charge is not right.
[quote="JypsyBear"]It could be said they have a attachment issues, becase normal parents would not leave Babies , in a Dark unlocked apartment,[/quote]
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