Title: BEFORE: Is Catriona's statement credible? | |
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TinLizzy | |
Date Posted:10/14/2010 12:11 PMCopy HTML I have found another witness statement claiming to have seen Madeleine I am a little confused by the contradictions regarding the parents and wonder if ths could be a translation issue? Sorry, c/p acting up again...so unable to highlight. I will add her to the list starting on Page 13 of this thread Processos Volume II Pages 383 - 387
Date/Time: 2007/05/07 14H30 Concerning the issue of the process said; Unless I am misunderstanding her statement, it appears that she accompanied Madeleine's group to the beach in the afternoon (no day mentioned - according to the activities sheet they went to the beach Tuesday for ice cream trip at 2.30-3.30 and beach play 3.30-4.30 but tennis was on the activity sheet for onday although Georgina quotes it as Tuesday so how reliable is this activity sheet and what about the mini dance after the beach trip?) but does that mean that Catriona was not there that day and if so, could this happen more than once where Catriona was not in charge of the children? [img]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy69/HiDeHo1/lobster30thapril.jpg[/img] Can anyone explain this? These times are very different from the activity sheet and she does not mention the mini sail? http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/CRECHE.htm [quote]Beach Maybe that is why the two afternoon squares are highlighted in beige even though one is listed as grass time. What happened to the ice cream trip at 2.30 on Tuesday? Was there a question in the police investigation about what Catriona had stated, hence they needed to build the timeline pages? Now I am really confused... the 'tables' show Kate as picking Madeleine up at 12.25pm and dropping her off at 2.50pm (after their trip with the twins to the beach). The ice cream trip was scheduled for 2.30 so they would have already left for the beach. Creche records show Gerry picked er up and dropped her off at 2.30pm Are the tables according to what Catriona told them? Creche records for tuesday I always thought Tuesday was odd ... Can anyone explain this? |
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Re:BEFORE: Is Catriona's statement credible? Date Posted:10/14/2010 12:12 PMCopy HTML From a post on the previous page, here is a summary I have some questions about. From Kirsty's statement... http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post152.html#p152 [quote]relative to the facts of the investigation the witness clarifies that in her daily schedule mentioned she only, on one occasion, had contact with Madeleine McCann, for about 30 minutes—who was treated as Maddie—in that she had to substitute for her colleague, who, at that time, was responsible for the group whose name is Emma, as she had to go to the Tapas to take care of the refreshments of Madeleine’s group. For this, the deponent had the charge of accompanying that group towards the beach until the MiniClub where they stayed for a few minutes, and from where they left for the restaurant, mentioned above, in order to have dinner. She clarifies that when Madeleine ate her food, her parents were close and accompanied her; [/quote] She claims she was calmer and shier than the other children. . [quote]Questioned, she states that the minor in questions appeared to her a calm child, happy, but quiet. States that Maddie was a very pretty child, notwithstanding, she did not stick out for this fact. However, as she was calmer and shier that the others; she furthers that the same child, from what she saw, was a child who did stick out, precisely . Questioned, she furthers that she had no contact with [Maddie’s] parents;[/quote] She didn't have direct contact with her. [quote]Questioned, the deponent states that she did not have direct contact with the minor at issue, Madeleine McCann, and is not aware of her habits or that of her parents, [/quote] I am having trouble visualising the scenario. --------------------------- In the police 'tables' Catriona claims they only went to the beach twice (not mentioning the mini sail) Did the police create the 'tables' because of the discrepancies. What date were these tables created and where did they take her statement of only going to the beach twice in the week? 12 Outros Apensos Vol XII Annex 59 [quote]Beach See post on previous page for more info... Could this mean that Catriona's statement about the mini sail on Thursday may mean it did not happen and was she wasn't there every day? Why in the comments to the police did she not mention the mini sail? Are the comments in her first interview about the mini sail part of the 'change' she made to her statement changes when she made her Rogatory? (sorry Snowy I haven't checked on your suggestions yet...the details of her returning for her interview three times is on another computer) Are the beige squares on the Activity sheet according to what Catriona claims as beach trips even though one shows as grass time? On May 10th she DOES mention mini sail. http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post1453.html#p1453 External Diligence carried out with Catriona Baker regarding Madeleine’s outing to the beach Date: 2007.05.10 Description and result of diligence On this date, in the company of my colleague Joao Barreiras and with Catriona Baker, the nanny responsible for the missing minor, we reconstructed the locations and their movements upon leaving the resort, in the direction of the beach. We were told by Catriona, that in the last days they went to the beach on Tuesday afternoon (01 of May 2007), between 15H30 and 16h30, on Wednesday (the next day) at the same time and on Thursday between 10 and 11h00 (see attached map).[/quote] Thursday police 'table' is missing (Pages 63 and 64 are missing) |
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Re:BEFORE: Is Catriona's statement credible? Date Posted:10/14/2010 12:14 PMCopy HTML We are supposed to believe Catrionas statement that she took Madeleine to mini sail on Thursday morning. Why did the police feel it necessary to create the Diagram of Events and why does it say that Catriona says the ONLY days they went to the beach was Tuesday and Wednesday. It seems we are not the only ones to question what happened at the creche during the week! Why is the Diagram of Events for Thursday missing (page 63 and 64 missing) and the creche details for Sean and Amelie on Thursday morning missing? http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/CRECHE.htm [quote]Beach Catriona told us that the only days that they went to the beach was on Tuesday in the afternoon (1st May 2007) between 15.30 and 16.30 and on the following day Wednesday at the same time. Seems a possibility that Catriona 'remembered' and added the mini sail to her original statement when she changed them during the Rogatories.
“I was allowed to refresh my memory by reading the translated version of my original statement to the Portuguese police”, one can read in the report that was taped by Leicester police. The contents of the nanny’s statements was such that she was heard three times on the same day, and had to have her memory refreshed. At Leicestershire police headquarters, Catriona Baker was heard by detective Gierc between 10.09 and 10.54 a.m. on Monday, the 14th of April 2008. Between 11.57 and 12.12 a.m. on the same day, she was heard again by the same detective and between 1.35 and 1.45 p.m. on the same day she was again questioned by the same detective[/quote] The credibility of Catriona's statement is crucial to confirm that Madeleine was alive at 5.30pm. All of the other statements have been shown to be questionable and do not show (relative) PROOF that it was Madeleine they saw. If Catrionas statement is questionable (which the above shows) then why should we believe Madeleine was alive at 5.30pm on Thursday? TVMais: At what time did Maddie leave the crèche? [quote]In Portugal, the experts that can evaluate calligraphy are from the PJ. It was explained to Tvmais that the crèche’s reports reveal inconsistencies in the writing. One of the doubts that the analysts raise concerns the identity of the authors of the form filling and their signatures in the form. The nanny’s signature and her handwriting appear on the sheet where only the parents were supposed to sign[/quote] |