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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:18 pm 
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Several witnesses ready to return but not the McCann’s

A German tourist says that she saw Kate on her way back to the apartment long time before 22:00.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:22 pm 
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well, that must put us onto timeline Mark 20..


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 Post subject: Re: A German tourist says that she saw Kate
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:25 pm 
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09.05.2008
Several witnesses ready to assist the PJ but not yet the McCann
Several witnesses have already expressed their readiness to return to Praia da Luz, the village where Madeleine McCann disappeared to, in response to the request of the Judicial Police (PJ) who wishes to make a more complete recovery of the events of May 3, 2007.

The information has been doubly confirmed today in Portimão (Portugal) and Enderby (United Kingdom), although both sources have acknowledged that there is not yet determined a date for this care.

"We still hope that Madeleine's parents decide to participate ... logically, they should be the first to be interested," says a police officer of Leicestershire.

Despite the statements by his lawyers in Portugal, Kate and Gerry McCann have indicated that they did not intend to make the trip as the authorities do not decide what to raise their status arguidos, what, in practice, seems impossible, as the couple must know.

After Kate and Gerry had been declared arguidos last September, the diplomatic services of the United Kingdom in Portugal had put pressure on the Portuguese authorities so the couple can start afresh, giving their assurance that the parents of Madeleine would be returned as soon that the police request.

Eight months later, the diplomats are no longer in office and the promise was forgotten, the British side.

Without any help from his government, the other arguido in investigating the disappearance of Madeleine, the British Robert Murat, is available to participate in a recovery even though his lawyer, master Francisco Pagarete, contacted by SOS Madeleine, says not having received a formal request in this regard.

The arguido status can be maintained under certain conditions, for twenty years, and would like Murat although the investigation is accelerated form to resume as normal a life as possible, even if for the moment, the British try to understand why , How and who would be behind the accusations that were made to meet him.

In the United Kingdom, Robert Murat has already accused of defaming 13 newspapers and a string of television. The British media calls on the record 2 million pounds, more than 2.5 million, one of the greatest compensation in the history of the United Kingdom, qu'explique that some media took the decision 'Delete on the Internet several articles about the accusations made in the past.

The indices are against the McCann

Among the witnesses the police account that even back in Praia da Luz, there is a German tourist said that the investigators had seen Kate McCann returned to the apartment for dinner, well before the time that the mother of Madeleine in given the alarm. His testimony is corroborated by a second witness, an official of the Ocean Club.

These stories can help to reconstruct the movements of each element of the group of friends, all nine of Tapas Bar, but alone do not explain the evidence that the Task Force on British police had found with the inspectors PJ.

In the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club, the dogs of the British police have reported the smell of a corpse behind the sofa which is located near the rear window. On this window curtains police found tiny traces of blood, despite the fact that they had been cleaned, like the wall.

The only digital prints found are those of Kate, Gerry and friends of the couple.

Later in the Renault Scenic hired May 27 by McCann, the Luso-British team found the smell a corpse but also human fluids and hair. The studies carried out in laboratories which police appealed revealed a strong probability that it was Madeleine, investigators do not talk about 100% as this degree of reliability is never given by scientists when it is DNA.

In the house where McCann had settled after leaving the compound of the Mark Warner, Vivenda Mar Vista, dogs British have once again reported the smell of corpse, this time on clothing belonging to Kate McCann.

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 Post subject: Re: A German tourist says that she saw Kate
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The cook says that the alarm was given around 9.30.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:33 pm 
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Very informative. I wonder if that's the real reason that ALL the officials at the British Embassy in Portugal were wooshed so that the government could renege on its promise to send the McCanns back when requested.

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kerry wrote:
Very informative. I wonder if that's the real reason that ALL the officials at the British Embassy in Portugal were wooshed so that the government could renege on its promise to send the McCanns back when requested.


Actually, I don't think it was the government that was supposed to send them. I think that part of being an arguido who is not placed on remand is that one is supposed to agree to return for additional questioning if asked.


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I'm thoroughly confused now

what are these new timings suggesting?


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cushty wrote:
I'm thoroughly confused now

what are these new timings suggesting?


I think it is super MAJOR!

The GNR were not called until 10:40pm. We always questioned that lag in time as to why the approx delay in calling the police once Kate gave the alert.

Kate told Mrs Fenn she had already called the police when she had not. Evidently they weren't ready for them yet!

What this means now is if Kate left at 9:30 and thereby Madeleine's disappearance would have been noticed at that time, it was actually one hour and 10 min before the first call was made for police to come to the scene.

Very suspicious, don't you think? One hour and 10 min. It beggar's belief!


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cushty wrote:
I'm thoroughly confused now


Join the club..what is this thread about...where does the German tourist fit in ?


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:56 pm 
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And also at the end of the article:

"Mes amis, rappelez-vous que dans la lutte contre le crime la PJ ne recule jamais. Mais, si elle devrait le faire, ce ne serait que pour mieux sauter", à dit Almeida Rodrigues.

= If PJ goes back it would be to jump better.

Very positive.


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Actually, I don't think it was the government that was supposed to send them. I think that part of being an arguido who is not placed on remand is that one is supposed to agree to return for additional questioning if asked.


I agree Beachy but its the government who leaned on the Portuguese authorities to allow them to return home in the first place, rumour has it, so who knows what fingers our government have in what pies when it comes to the McCanns

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Did I just read that right? .........................They didnt find any fingerprints of Maddy or the twins??????


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 Post subject: Re: A German tourist says that she saw Kate
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:05 pm 
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In the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club, the dogs of the British police have reported the smell of a corpse behind the sofa which is located near the rear window. On this window curtains police found tiny traces of blood, despite the fact that they had been cleaned, like the wall.

The only digital prints found are those of Kate, Gerry and friends of the couple.




interesting if only those prints were found what about fingerprints and footprints form the kids? the apartment should be covered in fingerprints from the toddlers as we all know how they like to touch things

If their fingerprints and DNA were not present in the apartment then it is clear they did a mammouth clean up operation, might explain the something that should be there but wasn't comments.


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I didn't read it that way

I took it to mean no prints from an abductor

perhaps it's time for Jane Tanner to remember bundleman was wearing gloves


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Cushty - this is in reply - can't keep up - whoooosh -
If she went back before the time she said, what about her statement that she was the last to check on 5a and found her daughter had gone from the flat? She would have already been in 5a at the time the abduction is alleged to have happened. Logically. I think. Yes, it's been a long day - so I may have got it all wrong. There are times when I take comfort in a way that this was all a charade, and so, in the end the detail of who did what exactly matters less than if the Tapas lot missed preventing an abduction by minutes.


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